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http://www.cotyroneireland.com/muster/geese.html
I am sorry if this is in the wrong place,so here goes.
I am doing research on Irish names and have come across a good few strange spellings.Possibly because of being in europe?ie Wild geese?
1/ Did all european soilders carry papers?, for ID ,medi card and dog tags(as stated, those in  recipet of help, were carring paper's stating service, ect.)
2/If they carred papers?, how did manage to keep them from damage,weather and war?
3/This is a big ask,are there any online records survieing from soilders of this time that are searchable?
Any help on this is most welcome,Shane. :-\

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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 09:09 GMT (UK) »
The earliest type of ID in the British army at least was in the Boer War (1899 to 1902) when the soldier's khaki tunics had a special inside pocket for a card giving identity details.

In the period you appear to be discussing I am sure all that happened was that the paymaster had an address to send any outstanding pay to if the man died.

Ken


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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Yes,but in the hospital ,it records that the solider who turned up at the door was checked by way of papers?.On the papers it stated who he served with,what campains and how long the service was,so would this have been give on release ,or was it carried by the solider in question?
PS I have looked at Irish military web sites and this stuff is very thin on the ground?
many thanks Shane

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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Does it say that the 'certificates' were checked on admission? I wonder if it means according to their records- from the hospital. Some seem to carry an order be admitted to the hospital.
http://www.irishmeninparis.org/soldiers-and-politicians/anciens-combattants

Presumably you have read more records from the Tuam site - I haven't but I am not sure that it would mean carrying papers but I don't know. :)
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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 20:17 GMT (UK) »
 :) Thanks for the link,I guess that's what I am after really.On this link they mention certificate ,so maybe  I am putting two and two together and getting five?
http://www.tuamfamilyhistories.com/soldiers/wild_geese_m.htm
Are there any other sources,because going on numbers ,there should be alot more material from many sources,IE Spain France,Austria etc over two centurys?
Many thanks Shane

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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 23:36 GMT (UK) »
I just found that by googling.
I suppose it depends what you are looking for. Some of the sites repeat the same information.
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Re: Irish Wild Geese at The Hotel d'Invalides and strange Irish surname spellings.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 December 13 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Heywood.