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Re: JOHN CORDIAL transportation to Darlinghurst 1854
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 15 December 13 03:42 GMT (UK) »
There are two children registered for John and Mary CORDIAL in Sydney.

1860    #949, registered Sydney
CORDIAL (FEMALE), parents: John, Mary

1865    #4548, reg St Leonards,
Henry F CORDIAL, parents: John, Mary M   

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Re: JOHN CORDIAL transportation to Darlinghurst 1854
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 15 December 13 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks once more for the contributions. I mentioned before John had a chequered history in N Z. I think they had 4 children in total. She had apparently run off at one time with a sea captain

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Re: JOHN CORDIAL transportation to Darlinghurst 1854
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 15 December 13 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Re John CORDIER in the 1854-55 in NSW

http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/

There’s also another CORDIER in Australian Waters as crew in that era.   Louis Cordier, crew on the 1855 arrivals of the  Marie Gabrielle.  NSW SRO Index to the Unassisted Arrivals 1842-1855.    He was a Frenchman…

Mariners and ships in Australian Waters:

Jan 1855 Marie Gabrielle (F L DALY, Captain) Voyage:  London to Sydney)
Second Mate, Louis CORDIER, 35 years, Frenchman.

July 1855 Marie Gabrielle (F DALY, Captain)  (Voyage Manila to Sydney, transcribed as Marie Bagrielle)
Bossman, Louis CORDIER, 45 years, France

Re the MATCHLESS and those 3 crewmen subject to court action when landing in Sydney in May 1854

May 1854 Matchless (Webster, Captain, Voyage: San Francisco via Honolulu to Sydney), I note that the arrival papers do not have any reference to any prisoners, and the crew and passenger list does NOT include Christopher MURRAY, Alfred MOSS or John CORDIER (or CORDIAL or any variation).   It seems that those clerks putting together those ladings were not exactly reliable/competent …. I think there’s many a clerk who took off to the gold fields rather than sit behind a ledger desk with only natural light to guide them to the blank page. 

Re John CORDIAL in 1860s as a clerk ….. not sure (assume this is an occupation listed on 1860s NSW birth certs?)…..

UNSURE because :   

June 1861, as crew on the Wonga Wonga, (Captain D WALKER) Voyage Melbourne to Sydney
Jno CORDIAL, Second Cook, age 33

July 1861, as crew, on the Rangatira, (Captain D WALKER)  Voyage : Melbourne to Sydney
Jno CORDIAL,  Second Cook, age 33, British

August 1861, as crew of the Wonga Wonga (Captain David WALKER)  Melbourne to Sydney
John CORDIAL, Second Cook, 32,

July 1865, as crew on the Lady Young (Capt W A CURPHEY), Brisbane to Sydney
John CORDIAL Cook, 37 British

PS, what was name of the Sea Captain that Mary M Cordial "ran off with"

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Re: JOHN CORDIAL transportation to Darlinghurst 1854
« Reply #21 on: Monday 16 December 13 04:53 GMT (UK) »


How Many Chaps were named JOHN CORDIAL ?????  :)  :)  :)

There were at least TWO chaps of similar age in New Zealand and named as John CORDIAL as there’s TWO by that name who died, one aged 45, died 1875 and one aged 53, died 1881 (this one would be listed online NZ BDM index)   IF you are considering ordering that 1881 record, THE CHEAPER option (Print Out) usually has MORE info on it than the real deal cert. 

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Evening Post, Volume XXII, Issue 76, 28 September 1881, Page 2
CORDIAL, On the 27th September, at the Hospital, John Cordial, of paralysis, aged 53 years. 

Grey River Argus, Volume XVI, Issue 2026, 4 February 1875, Page 2
CORDIAL On the 19th September 1874, at Christchurch, Canterbury, John Cordial, formerly of the Grey Valley, aged 45 years.

Nelson Evening Mail, Volume III, Issue 168, 18 July 1868, Page 3
NOTICE
The public of Nelson are hereby cauntioned against Purchasing a Patent Siccama FLUTE from Mrs Cordial, as the same is my property.  JOHN CORDIAL  July 16, 1868. 

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