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somewhere in ireland
« on: Thursday 05 December 13 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Can anybody come up with a birth reg. for James Miskell b. 1823, surely there can't be that many aforementioned births in that year, any help really appreciated
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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 December 13 22:24 GMT (UK) »
There were no birth registrations for that period- only baptismal entries in parish registers
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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 December 13 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Same James Miskell in your other topic?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=669960.msg5150761#msg5150761

You say 'somewhere in Ireland' but have started this topic on GALWAY board_ is that because you think he was born somewhere in Galway or did you mean to select IRELAND-GENERAL?

Civil registration of births started in 1864- far too late for James. For earlier dates you need to see if church records exist (many pre-1850 do not) but to do so you need to know both the family's religion and where they lived (parish if not actual townland).

If you do find a promising record- bear in mind that not all records survive and of those that do not all are online so it might be difficult to be sure any record you do find is the correct one.
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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 December 13 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aghadowey, Thanks for the info, never realised it would be that difficult, I posted it on the galway site as I'd seen a lot of entries on the Ancestry site and the name seemed quite common for that particular area, I've concluded that from your posting, my chances of finding any record are almost non exsistent and I don't have the expertise to undertake something such as this.
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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 December 13 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Richard, I'm no expert in Irish genealogy but on my search to try & track an ancestor I found this excellent site  http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/
Perhaps you could find other documentation that gives his place of birth?  And don't forget good old FamilySearch  :)

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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 December 13 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane, Thanks for that, will have a look at that although not confident
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Re: somewhere in ireland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 December 13 10:05 GMT (UK) »
A Miskell family (two families indeed, cousins) lived near Loughrea (Clostoken parish) but the parish (RC) records don't begin until 1831. The EC records are currently 'lost' but I expect will turn up in a Dublin repository sooner or later.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 December 13 10:08 GMT (UK) »
The EC records are currently 'lost' but I expect will turn up in a Dublin repository sooner or later.

Are they supposed to be 'lost' (as in whereabouts unknown) or were they sent to Dublin for safekeeping and destroyed when Four Courts, Dublin burned?
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 December 13 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi again aghadowey,

No, these weren't sent to the four courts as they weren't formal state records. The EC records, like the school rolls keep turning up with a bit of effort / luck. I wrote a piece for a journal (Genealogical Society) over here on the school rolls and the different places I found them and it would drive you mad. Some were still in the long-closed schools, some held in libraries, some kept by retiring schoolteachers as mementos, some in the national archives - I could go on.

For the RC records in this case, the Kilconickny (the local RC church) records are officially lost, however I've pieced together bits and pieces (from various sources) which can act as a substitute and I strongly suspect they survive somewhere in the extensive estate records of the Dunsandle Dalys (some of these records are in the National University of Ireland, Galway; some in the National Library being catalogued as we speak, and some other bits here and there) or in the records of the EC or in some Dublin repository.

On the wider genealogical picture, I think we're moving into an era with a greater appreciation over here for conservation and I expect to see more and more little nuggets being unearthed. Its happening already (old maps, local graveyards being quietly digitised, family records being made available), its just not being highlighted / catalogued yet. I live in hope :-)

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