Cragside Place - Blyth - location ??

[blythian]

I love old maps    ...that really shows how the area developed into formal grid from the previous "organic" lines.

I wonder where Craigside as a name came from?

Can't see any crags nearby... or Craigs 

Total punt but is there any connection to Blyth for William Armstrong of Cragside house ?  Was this area in his business empire ?  Actually one wonders how well naming a street after a Tory PM aristocrat dandy went down in a pit area 

Pete

Theres the newer Craigmill Park on Cowpen Road.

Going in another direction, "Craig" is a longer form of "Crag" and means "Rock"...so maybe a quarry in the area (though can't remember seeing one on any maps). Complete wild card guess.

[hatofthecat]

There's a small quarry at top left of the map link that Phodgetts posted:

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/005986FS.htm

Pete

[Phodgetts]

Morpeth Road will stem from the road which was built from Waterloo Bridge to connect with the Morpeth & North Shields Turnpike. So it is a very old name for the road, one which has been lost over the years.

Interestingly on the 1922 map it was Morpeth Road but on the 1937 it was Cowpen Road.

P

[Phodgetts]

Total punt but is there any connection to Blyth for William Armstrong of Cragside house ?  Was this area in his business empire ?  Actually one wonders how well naming a street after a Tory PM aristocrat dandy went down in a pit area 

Pete

I'm not sure how much involvement the Armstrongs of Cragside had with the town of Blyth. However, I do know that they were involved with the Thomas Knight Memorial Hospital, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that their family name be used in some instances in the town and or surrounding area. That said though, their name does not seem to be used at all in the town.

I like the idea of Craig coming from a quarry since there was one not that far away from the location of these houses. There was also a quarry at Cowpen Quay. I had also not thought of Craig Mill. One thing that does jump out to me on the old map on Northumberland Communities is the property that was accessed by a track leading from Keelmans Row over the old railway line to a structure that my have been a detached house or perhaps a small holding. No name seems to be attached to that property. It may be that it was called Criagside in relation to the quarry or some such.

Speculation on my part. Perhaps someone else with better local knowledge will be able to tell us.

P

[JoHunter]

While we're on Disreali Street....why was Morpeth Road School (old one ) so called? There is no Morpeth Road in the area?

Was Cowpen Road known as "the Morpeth road" locally?

I believe part of Cowpen Road was once called Morpeth Road, Redheads sweet factory was listed in The Kelly's Trade Directory for Northumberland for 1914 as being in Morpeth Road,Waterloo.

[stanmapstone]

You can see the name Morpeth Road next to the school on the 1922-1923 map at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=430653,581757 It is Cowpen Road on the 1937 map.

Stan

[hatofthecat]

Thanks for tracking down the road folks    ...I feel I've set you on a quest re. Morpeth Road now though 

...anyway supplementary question.  Does anyone know where the police station/house would have been in Blyth in 1930 ?  My grandad would have been a constable then.  I'm guessing it would have been the same big old building on Bridge Street as on the page below but is/was there another ?

http://www.northumbria.police.uk/your_neighbourhood/northumberland/Blyth/

Pete

[DavidJP]

Hi,

What a fascinating thread! I'd just like to add another little question if I may?

My late grandmother lived in Blyth & always had Cragside Park as a part of her address. She lived in Whithorn Court off Albion Way. Looking at the area on Googlemaps that StanMapstone linked to, Cragside/Craigside Place/Terrace seems to be more or less opposite Albion Way. Was the area known as Cragside Park? Always wondered what the Cragside Park was all about, does anyone know?

Kind regards

David

[Gmac101]

Thanks for the extra detail Stan, that's really quite bizarre.  I'm suspecting the locals, including my mother, went with the name carved on the wall and whichever spelling was nearest their house ??!!

This map is a very good example of use of both "Place" & "Terrace" along a main road. This is from Stepney, east London.  Luckily some helpful soul put me on to this map edition so I could find the one I was looking for there as the census enumerator there used all the the place/terrace names not the road or street one.

Pete

Hat of the Cat / Pete

I have a ex Blyth family (Thomas Hodgson, 5th child of Joseph Hodgson who ran the quay at the end of Hodgson Lane) living in the East End of London around the 1860's - I have never been able to find where they were living as the street noted on the birth certificates is Jubilee Place. It looks like I need that map - Where did you find it?

Thanks

Gavin