Cheshire: James LIMB, Born 1839

[rolnora]

Sorry Bac 3
My reply crossed with yours and you probably know about the later record.

[garstonite]

I suppose he might have tried the Merchant Navy ?...he did live right by the River Mersey...or is that clutching at straws ...do you have an occupation for him BAC in other census returns ??

[rosie99]

What was his address and occupation when he married

[BAC3]

Thank you all for trying to help.

It does appear there is no 1861 Census entry for him and I will qualify "his story" with that detail.

BAC3

[wilcoxon]

October 17, 1855; Liverpool Mercury.
A convict from Liverpool, Patrick Battle age 18 died from poisoning at Parkhurst,   he had been  convicted of robbing a till.  The chief witness was James Limb, convict no. 113 who said he had been there three years.
He goes on to say he was sent there when he was 11 for stealing a horse. He was remanded for two assizes because they were unable to find the man he sold it to.
It is a rather horrific story in that James describes what the prisoners used to do to try to be admitted to the infirmary. Swallowing ground glass, using "green stuff off the pump"  in pills,
it seems Patrick just wanted to make himself sick enough to be admitted, but sadly died from his actions.
The story is in other papers and varies in that James has been in prison 4 years.

[BAC3]

Thank you for your message......I am very grateful.

The Parkhurst Prison Medical Officer's report on the death of Patrick BATTLE, which I had cross-referenced to James LIMB earlier in my research, goes into a little more detail, but the newspaper extracts are pretty accurate in their descriptions.   A lot of the inmates regarded transportation as a fate worse than death!!!

Sadly, his entry in the 1861 England Census, the subject of my original enquiry, still eludes me.

[maryp]

I had stumbled on this James when researching my Ratcliffe family.. so I have a little info on Mary.
Her line is not related to mine.. although mine lived in Stockton Heath at same time.
She is daughter of John Ratcliffe b. 1825 Lymm and wife Ellen
John was a waterman.
Mary is with parents and siblings in Stockton Heath/Appleton in 1851
She is with mother and siblings in Stockton Heath in 1861.. she was probably pregnant at the time.
She gave birth to illig. son John Ratcliffe in 1861. He was bapt 5 May 1861 at St. Thomas, Stockton Heath. ( I screencapped record if you want it.)
John is living with Mary and James in 1871.

Mary's father John and a brother , both born in Lymm, both Watermen.. settled in Stockton Heath.

[BAC3]

maryp,

Thank you for that information. 

I am very grateful and have updated my records accordingly.

For now,

Tony