Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney

[majm]

Re the gettng declared insane. The article reads like he may have Alzheimer's or some other form of old age dementia. It's sad that in those days people had to go to court and have family members declared insane and then locked away.

NSW legislation continues to require a Court to order involuntary scheduling particularly for a mentally disordered person.  It is just that these matters are no longer written up in the printed press.

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/mhdao/Documents/discussion-paper-01.pdf

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

These burials match the year of deaths you have given in your original post.

Buried at St Peter's Church Cemetery, Cooks River, NSW:

John BROWN 26/5/1871
Sarah BROWN 13/12/1881
Thomas BROWN 12/9/1883

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11665-173581-26?cc=1534449&wc=M9MK-R2V:1500941123  They have the Card showing a transcription with John's age as 17   

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Government appointments should be announced in the Government Gazette.

Some of the early issues of the NSW Government Gazette can be found via Rootschat Resources Board.   It is part of the Victoria Government Gazette Online Archive 1836-1997 and so the live link is listed on RChat’s Victoria Resources Board.  Of course, don’t anticipate finding NSW Govt Gazettes AFTER 1851 when Victoria was hived off from NSW.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369963.0

“Victoria Government Gazettes
http://gazette.slv.vic.gov.au/ Thank You regross”

NSW Government Gazette 14 page 235  11 March 1840
Sheriff’s Office,
Sydney 2 March 1840
Notice is hereby given, that Mr Thomas Lowrie has been appointed Sheriff’s Baliff for the District of Goulburn, and that Mr THOMAS BROWN, has been appointed assistant Sheriff’s Bailiff for Sydney, in the room of Mr Thomas Lowrie.
T. Macquoid,  Sheriff.

And
NSW Government Gazette 25, 22 June 1843  page 298
Notice is hereby given ……. Appointed Bailiffs for the Districts ……  Mr Thomas Brown for Sydney, from the 1sst of January 1843 ……. Mr John Brown for Campbelltown from 1st January 1843   ….. Adophus W Young, Sheriff…..

Cheers,  JM 

[oze]

Thanks for directing me to those Assessment Books, JM, I had no idea that resource existed. The Lunacy Commission Report says Thomas Brown was owner of considerable property, so it makes sense for him to turn up so many times in the area.
I've been looking through the newspaper archives for Thomas Browns associated with the Sherriff's Office, and the 1840 date seems to match the beginning of articles about him. I'm not sure who this John Brown fellow is though, he seems to appear in the papers as early as 1834 (although with a name as common as that, the 1834 article could be about someone else entirely). Thomas Brown's son John would seem to be younger than this John Brown, I wonder if it might be a brother.
Very odd that the age of the John Brown in St Peters Cemetery is off. The newspaper article about the funeral says clearly it was taking place in that Cemetery, so either there were two John Browns buried there on the same day, or that record is incorrect. 17 and 47 can look rather similar with bad handwriting.
Thanks for pointing out those Government Gazettes, I'd had a quick look for them as they were mentioned in a few newspaper articles but forgot that the states have changed so much since then.
Cando, I didn't realize transcriptions were an option, that's very helpful.
I'll have to put John Brown on hold for a while, with Christmas coming up. I hadn't hoped to make nearly so much headway on the Browne family, so thanks very much to all of you for your help with this.

[kennett]

Perhaps "Sherrif's Gardens" is where the big police station is now.

[majm]

Perhaps "Sherrif's Gardens" is where the big police station is now.

Hi there Kennett, 

I find your post (above) is somewhat confusing, perhaps even a tad misleading.

May I note that in my opinion, that unless a person frequented "police stations" how would anyone know which police station you are referring to.

But not to worry, afterall, the detail for the street address for Sherriff's Gardens in the 1860s was found earlier, and repeated several times already on this very thread. 

Here's a shrunken link to the City of Sydney's online (and of course free to search) Sands Directory for 1868, giving street by street details.   

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0x6u/ 

Mind you, as far as Mr Google Maps, street view, is currently concerned, unless there's a fully operational Tardis located at the former Sheriff's Garden site, and ready to take onboard any well healed robbers, then there's no police stations (either Big or Small, or any size in between, official or unofficial) anywhere along Commonwealth Ave, Sydney 2000.

Cheers,  JM

[kennett]

There is a VERY LARGE  police station,   in fact,  the LARGEST police station for the entire central Sydney area,  occupying the entire block bounded by Goulburn Street,  Riley Street,  Campbell Street,  Hunt Street and Brisbane Street,   the corner of which site also touches Commonwealth Street at the intersection of Hunt Street,  Brisbane Street and Commonwealth St.   The lower end of the site is now a park.

I don't know how you missed it ?

This police station was constructed about 35 years ago, I believe.

I don't know if this large site had any law enforcement use or background prior to the construction of the present police facility.

[majm]

There is a VERY LARGE  police station,   in fact,  the LARGEST police station for the entire central Sydney area,  occupying the entire block bounded by Goulburn Street,  Riley Street,  Campbell Street,  Hunt Street and Brisbane Street,   the corner of which site also touches Commonwealth Street at the intersection of Hunt Street,  Brisbane Street and Commonwealth St.   The lower end of the site is now a park.

I don't know how you missed it ?

This police station was constructed about 35 years ago, I believe.

I don't know if this large site had any law enforcement use or background prior to the construction of the present police facility.

Hi there Kennett,


The 1868 Sands Directory (I provided the link for your reference) includes the details of the occupancies for all the streets you are now mentioning.  There is of course a huge difference, more than a century of difference.  There’s also likely a stroll from the southern end of Hyde Park, to that big police station likely built some 35 years ago, ie in the 1970s.  I have not found any evidence that Sheriff’s Gardens was anywhere near where the Surry Hills Police Centre, IS currently located.  (It being to the eastern side of Harmony Park.)   I do not live in Sydney, and I do not frequent police stations, and where a police station has been built in the mid to late 20th century is of no concern to me when I am looking at the NSW colonial era. 

May I note that the Sydney Police Centre is currently located at 151-241 Goulburn Street, Surry Hills. 2010.  The 1868 Sands Directory has covered that section of Goulburn St, to Crown Street.  There’s NO reference to Sheriff’s Gardens, nor to BROWN or BROWNE. 

I had checked that for the OP at the time of the initial searching.   

May I further note that as the Sydney Police Centre is on the southern side of Goulburn St, and is “big” it has frontage on Riley St (western side of that street, ie eastern end of the police station)  and Campbell Street (northern side of that street, ie southern end of the police station) and I have already noted Harmony Park on the remaining boundary.   Those streets are even further away from the address for Sheriff’s Gardens in that same directory. 

May I note that Sheriff’s Gardens in the 1860s and the Surry Hills Police Station in the 1970s are NOT located on the same sites as each other. 

May I please apologise to RChat for duplicating information that I and others may have already provided.
   
Cheers,  JM       

[majm]

The Sydney Morning Herald, 31 December 1927
“Where Lyons’ Terrace originally stood was once the Sheriff’s gardens, “
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16430515

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600151h.html   Sydney in 1848 Joseph FOWLES. 

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600151h-images/p70a.jpg  Lyons Terrace

and also to this letter to the editor, 19 Nov 1912
“… but Mr Stack is wrong about the Sheriff Gardens, that is  so far as the old Sheriff Gardens are concerned.  They started from the end of Goulburn street and went right up to what I know as the Slate Quarry now, I think Riley Street.   Mr Gregory Board’s Property was on one side, and the Sheriff Gardens on the other side of a creek that ran from Surry Hills.  A famly by the name of Nolan, I think, was in charge, …. There was a terrace of houses opposite Sheriff Brown’s place, known as Portobella Place – I think some four or six houses.   I can quite mind the low wall round Mr Brown’s place, but in my day that was known as Mr Brown's garden, and about it was a clear paddock with a row of old English oaks growing right up to Liverpool Street”
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15376551

And the article in the paper that prompted that Letter to the editor SMH 9 Nov 1912
“,,, When Samuel Lyons, an old. time auctioneer,  in the early forties of eighteen hundred, built the terrace in Liverpool-street so well known   as "Lyons'-terrace, .................  Professsor Pell of Sydney University, lived in the terrace.  Adjoining the terrace on the south was a garden surrounded by a brick wall, which extended down to Goulburn street.  It was known as the “Sheriffs garden” and was in charge of a Mr Brown who was known as the Sheriffs officer…..  Mr Brown was a short stout, florid man and took a great pride in the garden…..   “
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15374157


Many thanks to the RChatter who has just sent me a PM giving me a tip re the above info, as they are too shy to post on this thread at this moment.   May I please note that I am not the Original Poster.

ADD
A very quick skim at Trove, : 

SMH 9 April 1858
“Furnished Apartments to Let at No 5, Portobello place, back of Lyons terrace, a large room in a respectable family, adapted for a single person…… “
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13008502

SMH 28 July 1853
A surveyor and Civil Engineer of considerable experience, with first rate testimonals and references, wishes to meet with an engagement.  Address F 4, Portobello Place, Sheriff’s Gardens, Sydney.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28644616


Cheers,  JM 
(I would try to help more, but just right now I have a heavy work load on for my real life occupation