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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 03:49 GMT (UK) »
Probate of will mentions he is formerly of Lochinvar.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13239723


In the Will of JOHN BROWN, formerly of Lochinvar, but lately of Sheriff's Gardens, in the city of
Sydney, in the colony of Now South Wales, Gentleman, deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given, that after the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof, application will be made to this Honorable Court, in its Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction, that Probate of the last Will and Testament of the abovenamed deceased may be granted to SARAH BROWN, the executrix named in the said Will, the executor, JOHN PHELAN, having renounced probate.
Dated this first day of Juno, A.D. 1871.
CURTIS and GANNON, Procters for said Executrix, 229, Pitt-street, Sydney.

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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Found it   :D

Probate packet available http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\234333

I can photograph for you next week if you wish

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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 05:54 GMT (UK) »
Probate of will mentions he is formerly of Lochinvar.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13239723

I think that would be Lochinvar, as in New South Wales, about half way between Maitland and Branxton, as there's no mention of Scotland...


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There’s a John PHELAN, Under Sheriff  as the nominal advertiser for a number of legal notices in the SMH in 1871.  I would expect if that is the same John Phelan that he would need to decline to be executor.

   
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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 06:32 GMT (UK) »
Because of the Maitland connection could this be the birth for Sarah Jane?

NSW 10538/1866   
Sarah J BROWN, parents JOHN, SARAH    reg at MAITLAND

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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 07:23 GMT (UK) »
NSW SRO Reels  No. 1101 (at the end) and 1102 (from the beginning) cover much of the Land Applications for the many John BROWN chaps pre the 1861 Robertson Land Reforms Act. 

LPI now easier to search, but still not an easy task online, definitely much better, but still NOT set up for the fh buffs.   I have a "cheat sheet” booklet somewhere s….. Will hunt it up after our evening meal.

Lochinvar in the County of Northumberland. 
http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/mapping_and_imagery/parish_maps
http://images.maps.nsw.gov.au/terms/acceptTerms.htm
http://blog.sl.nsw.gov.au/erecords/index.cfm/2012/1/13/nsw-parish-maps
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-81
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-80


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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Funeral notices for Thomas Browne 13/9/1883

There is a brother John E Browne
Brother In Law Frederick Williams
Brother In Law Robert Formby
Brother In Law Lewis L Whittle

So wonder if there were other sisters?
Can't seem to find anything.

Don't worry about this found the father John's death notice and he leaves a wife and four children

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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Well, I wasn't expecting such a response, thanks very much to you all.
Judith, yes, I do have Mary's death, and marriage to Lewis Whittle. She was 19 at the time and on the certificate is written "The consent of Henry Whittle the father of the Bridegroom and of John E Browne guardian of the Bride was given to the Minister." John E Browne being the younger of the brothers.
The family seems to be using the name "Brown" until 1871, but by 1881 have "Sarah Browne" on the funeral notice.
Cando, I do believe that's the right birth for Mary although I haven't got the certificate yet as they're so expensive here.
JM, I'm not entirely certain where Sheriff's Gardens is today. There was an article in the SMH in 1912 about "Old Sydney" (http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15374157?searchTerm=%22sheriff%27s%20gardens%22%20commonwealth%20street&searchLimits=) and I've found what might be the right streets in Surrey Hills.
I hadn't yet come across that SMH article from Sarah Brown, so thanks very much for that. I don't have John's death certificate, I'm debating whether that or Mary's birth certificate would be more useful.
Merlin, those do appear to be the right burials, I think I might try contacting the church history group to see if there's anything else to find out there.
Ros, thanks so much for pointing out that probate, I've been looking through the newspaper archives for a long time but never managed to find that.
Going off "formerly of Lochinvar", I found a newspaper article (http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18714885?searchTerm=%22sheriff%27s%20gardens%22%20brown&searchLimits=) which mentions at the end a Mr John Brown, station-master at Lochinvar, I suppose this must be him. Rather strangely he appears to be trying to have his father declared insane! If this is the right John Brown he seems to have immigrated to Australia, rather than being born here, and his father must be Thomas Brown who was attached to the Sheriff's Office, which explains the acquaintance with John Phelan.
Judith, yes, that certainly matches the dates I have for Sarah Jane, although there's another John Browne resident nearby in Singleton which makes looking at the BMD records a little difficult.
Sue, I'm rather perplexed by all those brothers-in-law. Lewis Whittle is Mary's husband, but Sarah Jane only married Julius Gerahty in 1887 several years later, so I wonder who Frederick Williams and Robert Formby are?
Thanks again for all your help, I'll have to chase up this Lochinvar connection now.

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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Funeral notice for Thomas BROWN d. July 1868

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article60854932


Also buried at St Peter's Church Cemetery, Cooks River, NSW:

Thomas BROWN 5/7/1868


Large newspaper report names his siblings & where they were living:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article28420072


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Re: Mary E A BROWNE of Sydney
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 November 13 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Probate packet for Thomas Brown died 5/7/1868 also available.
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\233095

Will add to my list to photograph.   Probate packets may contain death certs and other useful info

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