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Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« on: Friday 22 November 13 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Frank Charles Preece (my great uncle), was born in Newent Gloucestershire in 1888. I cannot locate him in the 1911 UK census. He is believed to have travelled to work on/run a farm, it is thought in the Alice Springs area? My father remembers letters arriving at home from Alice Springs when he was fairly young - he was born in 1935, so I guess I'm looking at 1940's? There is a Frank Preece named in an online document - Residences for half-castes - Alice Springs (1943-1954) - but I have no concept of what this may mean, though it does say he is european. Is there any way of finding more out about this gentleman as it looks a possible lead? Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give, I am somewhat in the dark about Frank.
PREECE Bodenham (HEF), Newent (GLS), Orcop (HEF), Hartpury (GLS), Upton on Severn (WOR)
TAYLOR Walsall (STS), Brierley Hill (STS)
CARTWRIGHT Brierley Hill (STS)
ILSLEY Birmingham (WAR)
HODGETTS Bromsgrove (WOR)

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 November 13 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
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Frank Charles PREECE was born 1888 Newent 6a 270 Mar Qtr, mother nee HOLMAN.
Parents are Charles PREECE who married Ellen HOLMAN at St Mary de Lode, Gloucester, 1880 Gloucester 6a 491 Sep Qtr.
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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 November 13 20:37 GMT (UK) »
House No. 10

Tenancy agreement signed by Mrs Ruby Tilmouth 20th April 1949.

Occupant   Mrs Ruby Tilmouth   ) [bDefacto relationship  Mr Frank Preece     )][/b]

[There is a list of kids but i wont post their names as they could still be alive. See link below for their names etc.   
There was only one child by the name Preece. ]


Ruby Tilmouth, unexempt
Mr Preece European

Preece employed by Department of Works on award wages.

Preece provides the money to keep this family.

http://www.cifhs.com/ntrecords/nthcc/HCHousing.html

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 November 13 20:40 GMT (UK) »
House No. 10

Tenancy agreement signed by Mrs Ruby Tilmouth 20th April 1949.

Occupant   Mrs Ruby Tilmouth   Defacto relationship  Mr Frank Preece

[There is a list of kids but i wont post their names as they could still be alive. See link below for their names etc.   
There was only one child by the name Preece. ]


Ruby Tilmouth, unexempt
Mr Preece European

Preece employed by Department of Works on award wages.

Preece provides the money to keep this family.

http://www.cifhs.com/ntrecords/nthcc/HCHousing.html


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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 November 13 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Sorry i stuffed up and posted the same thing twice  :-[

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 November 13 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to you both for replies, Charles was from Herefordshire originally and moved into Gloucs when he married Ellen, he had died by 1899, Ellen was ill and the children were scattered across relatives and the workhouse at various times. Frank had a brother in the army and a sister who moved to Canada.
PREECE Bodenham (HEF), Newent (GLS), Orcop (HEF), Hartpury (GLS), Upton on Severn (WOR)
TAYLOR Walsall (STS), Brierley Hill (STS)
CARTWRIGHT Brierley Hill (STS)
ILSLEY Birmingham (WAR)
HODGETTS Bromsgrove (WOR)

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 November 13 06:19 GMT (UK) »
This does look like a good lead.  Unfortunately Northern Territory records are difficult to come by, with almost none of them on-line.  TROVE, the digitised newspaper service has nothing for him either so I'm unsure how you can proceed.

If you look at the White Pages (telephone directory) there are 7 entries in Northern Territory, with the surname TILMOUTH, one of which has the initial of one of the children mentioned in the link.  There are also some PREECE entries.
http://www.whitepages.com.au/

Alice Springs cemetery may have some information:
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nt/alicesprings.htm

The Genealogical Society my be worth a try also
http://www.gsnt.org.au/

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 November 13 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for those further leads. Searching through Google books and similar, I see several mentions of Ruby Tilmouth, not sure I'll ever get to the bottom of this!
PREECE Bodenham (HEF), Newent (GLS), Orcop (HEF), Hartpury (GLS), Upton on Severn (WOR)
TAYLOR Walsall (STS), Brierley Hill (STS)
CARTWRIGHT Brierley Hill (STS)
ILSLEY Birmingham (WAR)
HODGETTS Bromsgrove (WOR)

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Re: Frank Charles Preece - Gloucestershire, England to Alice Springs (maybe)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 November 13 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Some of the files mention the TILMOUTH family and their background.

Australian Electoral Roll
1943, 1949
TILMOUTH Ruby Woods  Alice Springs  Home duties
and a number of other TILMOUTH's

The fourth child on the linked file was enrolled to vote in Alice Springs in 1980 along with the above Ruby and others.

From one of the links….............and Ruby Tilmouth and her daughters Nelly Budeja and Joan Tutton, who were all born at Ranparane [Old Station Well, south east of Mount Riddock, homestead].

Joan and a Joseph TUTTON enrolled to vote at the same address to 1972 in NT.


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