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George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« on: Thursday 21 November 13 18:15 GMT (UK) »
George Rand born 1827 to James and Saran Rand. Saffron Walden.

1851 CENSUS living with a Mary aged 22 and Mary 6 months. Alpha Place SW. I believe Mary's maiden name to be Tyrell and they married in 1850.

1861 CENSUS living with Hannah 33 from Littlebury and 5 children in Debden Road. George's birthdate and occupation remain the same.
I believe Hannah's maiden name was Barker and they were married in 1857. So I think the three older children in census are his and Mary's and the younger two are his and Hannah's.
I can only think that both the Marys in the 1851 census have died. Have found a record for a Mary Rand Saffron Walden in 1855 but no idea who this is also cannot find another record for the other Mary.

Have I got info right?
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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 November 13 18:59 GMT (UK) »
I think Mary in 1851 is actually the 10yr old Charlotte you are seeing in 1861

Births December qtr 1850   
Charlotte Rand     Saffron Walden    12   255
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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 November 13 19:05 GMT (UK) »
The 1855 death was Mary Ann Rand and she was 26.  Buried at St Mary The Virgin SW on 21.5.1855

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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 November 13 19:18 GMT (UK) »
In the 1861 census a 12 yo Charlotte Rand was in the SW workhouse.

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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 November 13 19:29 GMT (UK) »
01.10.1852 buried at Steeple, Essex Mary Ann Rand aged 3

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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 November 13 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Charlotte Rand Baptised SW on 13.07.1851, parents George & Mary Rand.
1851 census taken 30-31 March 1851, 1851 census shows Mary as 6 mo
No sign of Mary Ann Rand baptised in SW, nor in free bmd.
There is a Mary Ann Rand born to Samuel and Mary Rand, baptised Steeple 22.04.1849.
Good luck with this one Tracey!

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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 November 13 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to both of you for the information. Now for some serious detective work.

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Re: George RAND born 1827 Saffron Walden - Have I got census info right.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 December 13 11:50 GMT (UK) »
i have Mary ann Reid married Joseph Rand, born wendons ambo? essex they had a daughter mary ann born 1815 she married James reynolds