Help with address: "Shandon", Leinster Road West, Rathmines, Dublin

[canberraterry]

I have a number of postcards addressed to Smith family members at the above address from 1903 to 1905, but nothing I have been able to find indicates where Shandon was. I assume that Shandon was just the name of a house.

My questions of anyone who might know the area are:

(1) Does Leinster Road West still exist?

(2) Is there a house still standing with the name Shandon?

(3) Is there any other way that I might find out what street number it (the house) was? (The census returns for 1901 and 1911 have not been useful as the family moved to Shandon probably in 1903 and left probably around 1907)

Terry

[aghadowey]

(1) Does Leinster Road West still exist?
If you put 'Leinster Road West' into GoogleMaps  it shows the road still there (off Harold's Cross Road)
It's not that long a street so if you drag the little orange man on the left side onto the map you can 'walk;' up and down the road. Looks like there have been just a few changes since the early 1900s. The most likely place for a house name to be displayed there is above the door (only a few houses do so, most have the number there) but the name could have changed or been removed.
There are valuation revision books that would list changes in ownership/occupancy but the ones for Dublin are not online and I see from your location a trip to the archives here isn't likely to be an option.

[gaffy]

There is a baptism record for a child to a John Fisher citing that address in 1874:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a479b80009020

What might be worth a go is for someone reading this thread with access to street directories to check for Smith in Leinster Road West from 1903 - 1907 or for Fisher in or around 1874.

[hasta]

Found several adverts for house sale/ rental
'Shandon - 24 Leinster Road West'

[canberraterry]

Thank you all so much for this help. I feel that I am getting closer to my family.

Looking at the Census information and the Fisher baptism record I see that there was a Fisher family living at house no 21 in Leinster Road West, whereas Shandon was apparently at no 24.

I have a similar apparent issue with the 1911 census return for William Smith, the eldest son of the Shandon family, who apparently lived at 36 Annesley Park according to the census return, but we have post cards from 1907 addressed to the family at 23 Annesley Park. This could be explained by the family moving, but in view of the Fisher addresses, I wonder if my assumption that the house number on the census forms is actually the street number is correct.

Is the house number on the census return the actual street number as I have assumed?

[canberraterry]

Hasta,

Thanks. I have been unable to find anything on Google. Can you provide a link to the ads? I am really looking for a photo if there is one on any of the ads.

Terry

[eadaoin]

Thoms Directory 1922 gives ...

Leinster Road West
#21 Fisher, John J
#24 Smith, S. J. (no mention of "Shandon"

I haven't any earlier Directories ...

eadaoin

[canberraterry]

Thank you eadaoin.

The Smith at 24 was a Samuel John who is currently unknown to my family, but since it appears that Shandon is No 24, and there are not a lot of Smiths in that area, it seems a huge coincidence that another Smith, also a Primitive Methodist, should be living there in 1911 and 1922, unless there is a family connection.

We know that my great grandmother Isabella Smith was living at 37 Kildare Street in 1894 the year before  her husband died, that when he died they were living at 1 Lower Fitzwilliam Road, and that they left there for Shandon at some stage after her husband died in 1895. Various members of her family were certainly receiving mail at Shandon from 1903 to 1907. I also "know" from a Boys Brigade souvenir booklet from the 1940s that my then twenty year old grandfather moved from somewhere in the parish of St Anne's to Charleston Road Methodist Church in Rathmines in 1898. So maybe Samuel and family took Isabella and family in? If so, I have a whole new avenue of family history to explore.

Thanks again,
Terry

[Sinann]

Is the house number on the census return the actual street number as I have assumed?

No it's the number of the form the census return is filled in on. Don't pay it any attention.