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Offline Maza

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lookup please Lanarkshire
« on: Sunday 17 November 13 13:29 GMT (UK) »
For 2 years I have been looking for my grandmother Janet Grays birth, also information on her husbands family, and getting nowhere. I managed to find a cousin in Scotland who told me that when Janet died her mother found a birth certificate for ....Janet stating that her name was Janet Anderson, not Gray...... Eureka!      I found her birth 15thJune 1896. Her father being John Gray Anderson (widower), mother Euphemia Hart (spinster)  who married  in Rutherglen 7/9/1894 .
He age 38, she 37.
That eureka moment has now vanished as apart from 1901 census I cannot find them on 1911 at all.

Also Johns parents Andrew Anderson and Mary Gray (thats where the Gray came from!) are nowhere to be found on census at all. Mary was not alive at the time of marriage 1894.
If anyone can please help find anything about them I would be grateful, I've probably missed something.
Sorry this is so long winded, I thought the more info the better... Cheers....  Maza

   

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Re: lookup please Lanarkshire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 November 13 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Possible?

1871 Scotland Census
28 Stonelaw St, Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
Mary GRAY, 53 (1818) Head, Web Sewer, born Glasgow
John ANDERSON, 15 (1856), Coal Miner, born Rutherglen
Jane CAY, 48, Sister, born Rutherglen

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Re: lookup please Lanarkshire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 November 13 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes, very possible Trish1120. I've tried Scotlands P so that i can see the original, but nothing comes up. I put in John anderson Age 14-16 Lanarkshire 4 came up. Milton, Blythswood Old Monkton and Tradeston. I them tried Mary Gray and nothing in lanarkshire! Is this usual? on Ancestry but not on S.P.... Maza




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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 November 13 17:13 GMT (UK) »
On A..y Mary shown as 53, on FindMyPast as 51, and on Scotlands People as 57!    They are in Rutherglen.

I searched just for Mary Gray (no age) in Lanark, Rutherglen and 4 come up and she is the one shown as aged 57 (original looks to me like 51 as stated on FindMyPast). 

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 November 13 17:51 GMT (UK) »
In 1861 Mary Gray is at same address as 1871 i.e. 28 Stonelaw Street, Rutherglen.

Mary Gray   Unm.   40      Housekeeper      b. Govan, Lanarkshire
Agnes Robertson   dau.   19                       b. Rutherglen, Lanarkshire
Robert Robertson  son     17                                   ditto
John Gray             son     6                                    ditto
Jane Gray    Unm.  sister    36                                ditto

So, looks like Mary Gray was never actually married although had at least 2 children by a Mr. Robertson, and then John Gray Anderson by a Mr. Anderson (Andrew?).

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Re: lookup please Lanarkshire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 November 13 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Who, where and when did Janet Gray marry?

Who was recorded as her parents?

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 November 13 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for the help I'm getting. I obvously need to look "outside the box" more.

Yes Mary Gray seems to have been having a gay old time! No marriage found either. Her sister Jane Gray, living with her has been entered as "imbecile" Do you know if this is a specific term, or a general term for "slow"

Janet Gray married James Stoddart. 12/9/1913 Blantyre. Her parents are stated as John Gray and Euphemia Hart.  It seems John dropped Anderson and kept his middle name Gray.
Cheers.... Maza

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 November 13 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Death 5 Nov 1873 28 Stonelaw Street, Rutherglen.
Mary Gray age 51 Domestic Worker  Parents - Robert Gray, Coal Miner, deceased & Agnes Sneddon deceased.      Informant Robert Robertson son.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 November 13 14:31 GMT (UK) »
 I have found birth Mary Gray 4 may 1820. I'm off to research her mother and father now.

Many thanks for your kind help..... Maza