Dublin BMD 1803 to 1860

[sundial]

Hello,

I am trying for the first time to find out how to research Irish records so apologies if I am asking a really basic question.

The person I am interested in was born about 1803 and Slater's Commercial Directory shows he was a tailor in Princess St, Dublin in the mid-1840s. I have also found a few references for him in Freeman's Journal between 1845 and 1853 showing he was alive in Dublin between these dates, but other information suggests he was dead by April 1857.

I am therefore looking for an Irish birth about 1803, possibly in Dublin, and an Irish death in Dublin before April 1857. 

How do I start?

Many thanks
Sundial
 

[athacliath62]

If he was born in Dublin, i.e. the city, then you could try the church records on IrishGenealogy website

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Full civil records didn't start untill after his death. See the various resource topics on this forum for more detail.

[aghadowey]

Civil registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages started in 1864 (from 1845 for non-Catholic marriages) so for earlier dates you need to look at other sources such as church records but the difficulties are that not all records survive or those that do may not be online and that generally you need to know the family's religion and where they lived in order to check the church records.
The Dublin church records online are fantastic but not complete.

If you post the details that you already have found there's a chance we might be able to find more details or suggest where you can search next.

Meanwhile, have a look at this topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=442233.0

[athacliath62]

I think maybe that address should be Prince's Street ?

two of these in Dublin, a Prince's Street North and Prince's Street South

[sundial]

Hi,

Senior Moment, athacliath! It is actually Palace Street! Thanks also for the link - haven't found a match so far, though.

Thanks for the info and link aghadowey. It will take me a bit of time to read through it. Unfortunately I don't know his religion or parish. But I would be happy to provide by PM the few clues that I do have, if anyone is interested in the challenge.

Thanks again
sundial

[athacliath62]

why not post the details you have to see if anyone can locate any possible clues ?

were his children, presumably including your connection, born in the city of Dublin, do you have baptisms for them already ?

[sundial]

Hi again athacliath62.

Thanks for your further message.

He had 3 sons, all brought up in Scotland. Only the middle one was born in 'Ireland' (in 1846), presumably in Dublin city as that is where his father's business was. I don't know how to search for an Irish baptism for him. The other two sons were born in Scotland. I can only find a Scottish baptism for the first-born son and it was a Catholic baptism. This suggests that the my subject was Catholic, as his Scottish wife's second marriage was in a United Presbyterian Church of Scotland. 

My original post was seeking general guidance on how to search Irish birth, marriage and death records for the period between 1800 and the start of civil registration. 

The reason I sometimes prefer to post details by PM is that public posts can appear as hits on browser searches long after the post has ceased to be active.

Regards
sundial

[aghadowey]

The problem with not posting all the information you can on the topic is that others that have been helping (or might help in the future) have no idea that some details have already been given to you and they might waste their time searching for the same thing.
Since RC threads dp show up in search engines which means there's a good chance that someone else looking for the same families/people will come across your topic.

[sundial]

Understood and thanks for your further message and interest, aghadowey.

I can only repeat what I have already said - my original request was for general guidance on accessing Irish records, rather than a request for people to do the research for me. It is my first foray into researching Irish ancestors so I appreciate any and all help about what web sites to try. And the replies I might receive could help others in the future.

By not posting details, I can avoid causing people to 'waste their time' on my behalf. And in the case in question, there are good reasons for not exposing it to search engines.

But I am not going to refuse offers of specific help, as I know that some rootschatters enjoy a challenge! Hence why I would be prepared to provide specific details in a PM. 

Regards
sundial