Kings Liverpool Regiment 13th Battalion WW1

[millymcb]

 
Milly: Sorry I'm not really familiar with all the military organisation, brigades and divisions and all that, could you explain it to me a bit? 

Unfortunately it's not an easy thing to explain... and everyone explains it differently
 
Here is a good description of what a BATTALION and COMPANY was from the excellent 1914-1918 website
http://www.1914-1918.net/whatbatt.htm


And here is my effort at an explanation - in very rough terms as it generally relates to Infantry. (It varies depending on which part of the military you are talking about)

TEAM/SQUAD/PLATOON/COMPANY
In an Infantry Regiment Battalion there were smaller sub-groups of men:
Within each Battalion there were usually 4 Companies.
Within each Company there were usually 4 Platoons (eg approx 20-30 men usually led by a Sergeant)
The Platoon was further broken down into Squads and then Teams

BATTALION: King's Liverpool had lots of BATTALIONS (approx 1000 men to each Bn and about 30 officers)

BRIGADE: These Battalions were assigned to various BRIGADES along with Battalions from other Regiments. (In this instance 13th Bn were part of 25th Brigade, then 76th Brigade and then 8th Brigade in 1915 moving to 9th Brigade in 1916.
See list of all the brigades here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_infantry_brigades_of_the_First_World_War

DIVISION: A number of these Brigades were grouped together with other Brigades as part of a DIVISION. (In this instance the 3rd Division).
See list of Divisions here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_divisions_in_World_War_I

ARMY GROUP: This refers to a group of DIVISIONS which form a bigger group.
13th Bn King's Liverpool were formed as part of "Kitchener's New Army".
The were attached to 25TH Division which was part of K3 (ie Kitcheners Army Group K3)
See her for more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchener's_Army

Above Army groups were various commands and other hierarchy which I won't go into now!

I hope I got that right (I am sure I will be corrected if not)


Milly

[CaroleW]

Hi

Where did you find that out about his discs, was that on Ancestry? The plot thickens!

Yes it was.

Here's the link to the WW1 Service records

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wxe/ 

Here are the URL's to both sets of records (some records are duplicated) I used Rootschat "shrink a link" to reduce the length of the URL

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wxc/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wxd/ 

[theredbishop]

Kate - I know it's 4 years since your post but hopefully you get to read this.
Was searching for where my grandmother grew up and eventually arrived here.
Her name was Gertrude Hoople......sister to Percy.  So we must have some distant connection.
Feel sure I would have some interesting family info for you that's been passed down.

[katelisabeth]

Kate - I know it's 4 years since your post but hopefully you get to read this.
Was searching for where my grandmother grew up and eventually arrived here.
Her name was Gertrude Hoople......sister to Percy.  So we must have some distant connection.
Feel sure I would have some interesting family info for you that's been passed down.

@theredbishop, thanks for replying! I've not got much further with Percy in all that time since posting this. I checked our tree and Gertrude is indeed on there. I have no info for her besides a census with them all on. It'd be great if you could share what you've found!

[theredbishop]

Hello Kate
On your tree, which of Percy's siblings are you related to.
Are you specifically after info on Percy or the Hooples' in general.
I knew my grandmother and she always had tales of them all growing up at the family shop on Everton Road. The regiment Percy joined was a few doors down from the shop and the old barracks still exists. The Liverpool Echo were trying to save it, there's an article on line.
My mother (Gertrudes daughter) died last year and I've still a number of boxes to go through. Seem to remember seeing a photo of Percy which will be in there somewhere........but it may take sometime to find.
Paul

[katelisabeth]

Hello Kate
On your tree, which of Percy's siblings are you related to.
Are you specifically after info on Percy or the Hooples' in general.
I knew my grandmother and she always had tales of them all growing up at the family shop on Everton Road. The regiment Percy joined was a few doors down from the shop and the old barracks still exists. The Liverpool Echo were trying to save it, there's an article on line.
My mother (Gertrudes daughter) died last year and I've still a number of boxes to go through. Seem to remember seeing a photo of Percy which will be in there somewhere........but it may take sometime to find.
Paul

Hi Paul,

Eric Hoople, my grandfather, was the second son from William's second marriage, making Percy his half brother and my great uncle. Grandad was born in 1921. We don't know how well he knew his half siblings, but he mentioned the shop, and according to mum he used to speak of one of them, I think it was Bertha.
We are interested in all of the Hooples, but Percy particularly intrigued us due to his service in WW1. We still live in Liverpool and regularly pass Everton Road and his old barracks. I'd be amazing to see a picture of him! (if and when you find one)