Tracey's of Dublin . . . Need your Help

[myluck!]

It was not unusual for a person to be baptised in a RC church but brought up CoI
Often indicates a mixed marriage

The fact the birth date is exact and so long before the baptism (very unusual for a catholic) I wouldn't rule this out

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

You seem to know a lot about Louisa's parents yet from what I can gather you don't know their names ..... would that be right ?

How can you be so sure that Louisa was born COI if you don't know who her parents really were ?

I can't see any Louisa and William matches !

Do you have her on a 1901 census ?

What happened her sister Catherine ?

Tara

[myluck!]

This seems to be them in 1911 in Cork

[Quido]

Now. . . .that's food for thought.
I know that Louisa was a devout COI till her death in 1962, and that her children were raised COI. Haven't found any Bap. Records yet though.
But I hadn't considered that her parents could have been of mixed faith. Can you suggest a way  forward with this?
And has anyone heard the expression 'Bob Lady' before?
Thanks to everyone for the help and advice so far
Warm Regards

[Quido]

Hi Tara,
I know that Louisa Mildred married William Crook 1897 . . . Golden Wedding Salford 1947 . . . .but don't know where they married or precise date.
Raised by her Grandmother, I have an account from Louisa's Grandaughter of the lives of William and Louisa when they lived in Cork and there  was a certain amount of travelling round singing for their supper. I cannot find them in any 1901 census. But have the 1911. The dates I have given come from Louisa's Grandaughter.
Louisa told her Grandaughter the story of the Bob Lady and of her father being killed  in a steamroller accident! And that  she had a sister Catherine, but no names for her parents. Also the connection with the Cusack family.
My feeling is that William was in the Navy, there is a suggestion that he was attached to HM Victory Barracks Portsmouth as a Stoker/ERA. But no confirmation.
Their first child was born Salford Lancs 1898 the other children in Cork. So possibly if William was stationed Portsmouth Louisa lived with the Crook family in Salford for the birth of her baby. . . . But returned to Cork for the birth of their second child abt 1902. Possibly the naval connection ended at this point. They remained in Cork till about 1920.
Finding Louisa and William's marriage cert and something about Louisa's parents would mean so much.
Warm Regards. Q

[taramcdsmall]

Hi There

I'll be honest in saying that this sounds like a tricky and sensitive one.

That baptism that myself and my luck are talking about really looks like a good match BUT it certainly has a lot of questions attached to it.

I take it Louisa is your direct ancestor and that she passed on the stories re her parents !

Have you any proof to back them up as sometimes when children were orphaned young their recollections in late years can be a bit 'altered'.

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Sorry you say in your last message that she was raised by her grandmother ..... I thought you said she was reared by the Cusacks ?

Do you know how come Louisa ended up in England ?

Was there ever any mention of what happened her sister ?

Re the certs that you got ... what names were given for the husbands ?

T

[halfpenny]

The actual registers for that parish are available. Not sure if you have seen it but here is the baptism in question.

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/st.nicholas_mf_1870-1880_ba_0228.pdf

 

[Quido]

Thank you so much for that link for the Baptism.
Her full names were Louisa Mildred . . . So would it be usual to be baptized Louisa without the Mildred?
Just to be clear I am researching on behalf of Louisa's Grandaughter who was raised by her Grandmother Louisa Mildred Crook (née Tracey)  and it is the stories passed from Grandmother  to  Grandaughter together with the few dates and census facts that I have, that I have posted here. There is no knowledge as to what happened to Catherine. But after the death of both parents the two girls were taken into the home of Sir Ralph Cusack where they were well treated. Don't even know how far apart were the parents deaths but that the eldest little girl would have been about 8.
No idea how Louisa met Wlliam Crook . . . . .but if he was RN perhaps a ship had docked. . . . Dublin or even Cork.
Don't know anything about Catherine or the Tracey parents. Or where Louisa and William married.
But I do feel that you are nudging me in the right direction. So I am hopeful.
Louisa passed on the story to her grandaughter that as a small child she would accompany her mother visiting houses offering the letter writing service.
Thanks for all suggestions and help so far . . . . .and hopefully what is yet to come.
Same Regards.  Q