13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool

[Radcliff]

Just a little note I am sure you have it but her probate gives her address as 199 Walton Road,and are you sure she is 14 ,leaving a will,

[Radcliff]

Marian Mortimer Sides,of 199 Walton Road,Liverpool,
Spinster, died 29th September 1921,
Admin granted Liverpool, To Archie Sides, Licenced Victualler ,£176 7s 6d

[Radcliff]

Is the 199 Address her fathers abode,the Salutation Hotel,

[stanmapstone]

You can see the Receiving House on the 1891 Town Plan at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=333837,390537 and in a different location on the 1908 map, but this is at the south end of Princes Dock, whereas Princes Half Tide Dock is at the north end.

[stanmapstone]

Apparently it was the Dead Receiving House http://goo.gl/7zQ25O

Stan

[Radcliff]

So Stan, you would in theory be dead rather than die there,

[Radcliff]

Have you found her burial records , to see if the address corresponds with the death cert details,

[stanmapstone]

So Stan, you would in theory be dead rather than die there,

According to newspaper reports the Receiving House at Princes Dock was where people recovered from the water, either through accident or suicide, were taken, and attempts made to revive them. If they recovered, as in one report, attemted suicides were taken to court.

Stan

[fridayjan]

Thank you for all your comments.

Yes, her father Archie was the publican at the Salutation Pub, 199 Walton Road. 

It surprised me too when I found the probate record for her, but she was only 14 (baptised at St Johns, Bootle 7.7.1907 and born 15.10.1906).  As it says "Administration Liverpool" do you think it would be worth me sending for her Will?  I've never sent for one before but seem to remember reading that if it says Administration rather than Probate, there might not be much information available?

I haven't been able to find her burial place so far.

Unfortunately, I don't know exactly when my grandmother Clara left with Marian, although I suspect it was sometime between 1911 (when the step-mother's baby died) and 1917 (when the step-mother died).  The address she gave as her residence on Marian's death cert was 47 Gloucester Road, which is also the address she gave on her marriage certificate in 1924.  So I presume Clara didn't return to live with her father, Archie.

Archie sound like a bit of a lad!  He married 3 times, and each time the age gap between him and his wife grew (3 years, 7 years and 22 years) and my Mum (also Marian) told me that his children would get new clothes if he won on the horses, but the next week they might be pawned if he lost! I've found newspaper reports about him going bankrupt after selling bad meat from Pork Butcher shops that he'd bought from someone interned in WWI.  Quite an interesting character!