13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool

[fridayjan]

Can anyone help me with this address, and why it would be given as the place of death for a 14 year old?

I have the death certificate for my great aunt, Marian Mortimer Sides, which says that she died on 29 September 1921 at 13 Princes Half Tide Dock.  The cause of death was acute rheumatic fever and endocarditis, and my grandmother (her sister) was the informant and present at her death.

I've tried googling the address with no success, and have no relatives to ask, although I do remember being told that Marian was "sickly" and had a "deformed" arm.  Their father was a publican, and they had previously lived at the Castle Hotel at 50 Regent Road so I suppose it's possible they were visiting someone at Princes Dock when she was taken ill?

[aspin]

I have used Google Earth
there is a Princes half Dock
Princes Parade
Liverpool
L3 0BU
Any good maybe the buildings have been demolished and the Parade put there
Elizabeth

[Radcliff]

If her sister  was the informant ,would it not be possible this is where her sister lived,

[fridayjan]

Hi,  Thanks for your replies.

I don't think her sister (my grandmother) was living at the Princes Dock address - the address she gave as informant was a different one, belonging to her aunt Kate.  (there's a long story here - wicked step-mother has a baby who dies and makes a comment along the lines of "why did my baby die when that cripple is still alive (Marian)" at which point my GM slaps step-mother and leaves the family home, taking Marian with her, to go and live with aunt Kate, who was her mother's best friend!).

My main puzzle is why would a 14 year old die in what was presumably a working area in 1921.  Could there have been a habour master's house or some such that she was visiting?

[I've just had a thought and will try looking through the census' to see if there is a residence at no. 13 - ahhah! why didn't I think of that earlier?!]

[stanmapstone]

You can see the area around Princes Half Tide Dock on the 1927 map at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=333667,391071 select the map from the list on the right. There is a Dock Master's Office. There don't seem to be any houses, are you sure it says 13?

Stan

[mazi]

I had a look at a 1937 photo of this dock taken from the air and again could not see any houses, but this dock had access to the leeds Liverpool canal with a towpath so it may be more a magnet to children.  is it possible the canal boat berths were numbered, or the warehouses had numbered entrances.

mike

[mazi]

it may not then have had access to the canal,  wiki is misleading me 

[mazi]

this picture may help.



http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw037721?name=LIVERPOOL&gazetteer=LIVERPOOL&POPULATED_PLACE=LIVERPOOL&ADMIN_AREA=Liverpool&ref=32

[fridayjan]

I don't think the family had any connections with the canal, or at least no one in the family has ever mentioned it!

Having looked at the 1901 and 1911 census there do appear to be some residences with numbers, i.e. the pier master is at 11 Princes Graving Dock, but I couldn't find no. 13 mentioned.  However, there is a family living at a "receiving house" (whatever that is?) and I've found some entries on the Toxteth Park Cemetery site for people whose abode is given as "Dead House Princes Dock", so I wonder if there was some kind of hospital/mortuary in the area?

I suppose it's possible that Marian could have died suddenly while out and about (given her cause of death/medial history) and was taken to the nearest suitable place?