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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 November 13 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Sloper, dau of Silas & Mary was christened 25/12/1783 @ All Cannings. No marriage found. In 1841 census this is possibly her family:

KING, Eliza F 60 1781   
   
KING, William M 25 1816   
   
KING, Lucy F 20 1821   
   
KING, Charllotte F 15 1826   
   
KING, Amelia F 0 (6 months) 1841  Wiltshire

Amelia is dau of Lucy. Lucy m George Sexton in 1851@ Devizes, Chute, St Nicholas

   
PAINE, Jane F 15 1826
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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 November 13 05:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi jrc11……..The Eliza Jane Sloper King's mother is listed as Mary King and she was born in Bishop Cannings so could be perhaps the Mary Sloper first born to Silas and Mary who married the King………..In 1851 Census -Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1704; Folio: 48; Page: 37; GSU roll: 193612………………it has (1) Mary King, Widow, Head, b. 1781 (2) William Sloper King b. abt 1811 in East Lavington, Wiltshire "Son" (3) William King b.1820 in Swallowcliffe, Wiltshire (Son), (4) Eliza J S King b.1825 in Swallowcliffe, Wiltshire (dau), Charles H Allen b. 1850 Pewsey, Wiltshire (Grandson)……..This Charles H Allen seems to live with Eliza J S King in the 1861 & 1871 Census's………………It's been a while since I wrote in Rootschat - Can you tell me the shortcut for making a "New Sentence" line?

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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 13 November 13 14:23 GMT (UK) »
This will help to confuse things. On 18 Jan 1771, Mary King dau of Thomas & Mary was christened @ Bishops Cannings. On 14 April 1776 Mary King dau of William & Mary was christened @ Bishops Cannings. However I presume it should be the birth of Mary Sloper that is relevant. Mary Sloper dau of Silas & Mary was baptised @ Bishops Cannings on 19 Feb 1781. She was a twin of Silas baptised the same day. (I am searching as I write this & have just come acroos the following location quoted "Bishops Cannings (Bourton)" which would appear to clear up the 1851 census birth place). No Sloper/King marriage found.
I do not understand your new sentence query.
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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 November 13 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi jrc11…………..Another possibility would be Mary was a widow when she married a "King"…………and that the listed Charles H Allen "Grandson" to the Head Mary King could have been one of her daughters that married an "Allen" and had a child that was sent to live with them?………I thought of that one just going to sleep last night!!


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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 November 13 10:38 GMT (UK) »
I have the baptism book for Pewsey and the William Allen you are looking for does not look as if he was baptised in Pewsey. The William Allen baptised in 1828 to Richard and Anne married and stayed in Wiltshire.

Stephen Allen baptised 7 May 1780 at Pewsey to Stephen and Mary may have been the one that is listed on the census, wife Anna. They had two children baptised at Pewsey, Mary Ann 22 May 1820 and Stephen Henry  11 June 1821.

You need some kind person to look up the marriage in Wilcot.

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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 November 13 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank You Heather….. :-*looks like you have the correct one I am looking for in Stephen Allen and Anna nee Sloper and two of their children………you are very kind to have followed that through for me………….If you have been following what jrc11 and I have been looking at last night very late I located who the marriage witness "Eliza Jane Sloper King" in the marriage of Stephen Henry King to Emily Jane King and it is her sister………………Emily Jane King married Stephen Henry Allen 16 May 1850 (totally out of the district in St Holborn) perhaps because she was having a baby Charles Henry Allen at the time……………Emily Jane King died in Oct 1850 in Pewsey and the child Charles Henry Allen went to live with Emily Jane King parents who are John King and Mary nee Sloper………………….now I found the marriages for John and Mary King ………………John King married Mary Cheater 6 May 1817 in Milton Lilbourne both were widows…………………Mary Cheater nee Sloper 1st marriage was to William Cheater on the 12 Nov 1808 in Market Lavington,……I have located the 1841 Census for John and Mary King……….Detail: Class: HO107; Piece: 1186; Book: 16; Civil Parish: Wilsford; County: Wiltshire; Enumeration District: 9; Page: 3; Line: 7; GSU roll: 464202………………….which has another son Charles King born about 1816 but I am not sure if he belongs to John King's first wife or Mary Sloper his second wife………….Mary Sloper is the sister of Anna that married Stephen Allen……………I would love to know who John Kings first wife was if you have anything on Charles born 1816 in Wilcot…………..Thank you very much again Heather and jrc11………….. ;D

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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 November 13 23:06 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to mention that I had a look at the second witness to the marriage of Stephen Henry Allen to Emily and the witness would you believe is a Benjamin "Cheater"……….. :o  The only trace after that is a conviction and sent to jail in Dorset and later another conviction where he was transported to New South Wales Australia in which he got life.  After the first conviction he seems to have changed his name to Benjamin Chater………He served 10 years and was given a Pardon…..I am still looking at that.

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Re: Marriage Milton Lilbourne / Pewsey Surname "Allen" "Bolding" & "Sloper" abt 1811
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 23 November 13 01:41 GMT (UK) »
Please disregard part of the last entry by me.  Benjamin Cheater died in the same area as his mother was living in Essex in 12 Dec 1859 in Waltham Abbey, Essex, England.  While he did go to Dorset Jail on the 24 Jan 1833 it was just for 2 months and can be found in the 1841 Census there as Ben Cheater with an occupation of a Carpenter.  So what I said about going as a convict to Australia is incorrect.  I do believe when his step father (Stephen King) died in 1848 he went back to live with his mother and changed his surname to his mother's married surname William Sloper King in the 1851 Census as it has him as an occupation of Carpenter with the age and birth place matching him.  I found that he was a witness also to his Step brother William King who married Claretta Drake in St Andrew Holborn in 1851 he witnessed together again with his Step sister Eliza Jane Sloper King….