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DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« on: Saturday 09 November 13 17:50 GMT (UK) »
One interesting aspect of DNA for Europeans shows we have twice as much "Neandertal" DNA than we do "Homo Sapien" DNA.
It was once though the the two never interbred but the opposite has bee proven to be the case.
It seems rather than the Neandertals being wiped out they were simply intergrated into the more common Homo Sapien "breed".
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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 November 13 19:05 GMT (UK) »

I read this Article in 'The Guardian' on a similar theme a little while ago:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/aug/14/study-doubt-human-neanderthal-interbreeding

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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 November 13 20:48 GMT (UK) »
I think this can be accounted for by the fact that the Neanderthals originated in Europe and integrated with the Homo Sapiens.  Fascinating stuff - I remember when I was at school being told that Neanderthals were hardly human but recent research shows that their way of life was comparatively sophisticated.
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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 November 13 06:48 GMT (UK) »
Has anyone got an unusually high or low result when they took the Neanderthal DNA test, e.g. 0% or >4% ?


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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 20:31 GMT (UK) »
One interesting aspect of DNA for Europeans shows we have twice as much "Neandertal" DNA than we do "Homo Sapien" DNA.
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I think that should be twice as much Neanderthal DNA as the average homo sapiens sapiens does. I seriously doubt anyone believes Europeans are two thirds Neanderthal.
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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Well if you came to our town I think you'd change your mind :) :)


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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 December 13 21:24 GMT (UK) »
lol ... thanks, but I have enough "throwbacks" in my own family without trying to find any more  ;)
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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 December 13 19:36 GMT (UK) »
As I understand it, Neanderthalers (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) were early contemporaries of early members of our own sub species (homo sapiens sapiens) and are not ancestral to us. We all apparently came out of Africa at a variety of time periods. Homo Neanderthalensis leaving earlier than our own ancestors, though there is some doubt over the timing as to when this happened. I don't take any of the research as being anything like finalised as it is a developing area of research; further complicated by the discovery of other Archaic members of the Homo clan.
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Re: DNA Neandertal Vs Homo Sapiens
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 December 13 00:58 GMT (UK) »
There was a very good article by Dr Michael Hammer in the May 2013 issue of Scientific American which summarises some of the recent findings and is well worth reading. I found a pdf available online:

http://80.250.162.180/2007/Tatyana.Polyakova/English/documentary.su-Scientific_American_USA_2013-05.pdf
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