Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell

[Joyful]

I would be very grateful if someone could find a marriage in Victoria for the above couple.

I can't find one and I'm nearly cross-eyed, all I know is that their daughter Martha Black was

born in Eaglehawk in 1871 and married William Scilley in Eaglehawk 18 Feb 1891.

Thanks
Joyful

[sparrett]

There is not a marriage registered for the couple in Victoria.

Martha was the fourth of six births to John BLACK and Jane nee RUSSELL .

These births can be listed if needed and started 1863 with the last being in 1873

Sue

[Joyful]

Thanks Sue very much for that information...that explains why I couldn't
find a marriage
If you would list the other children I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Joy

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
I'm not Sue but here are the other children
John (Johnnie)1861 Myers Flat Victoria died 9.7.1862
Margaret Ann 27 4 1863 Peg Leg Gully Nerrin Nerrin Victoria registered Nerring. M.1886 David Marshall Cousin
William 1865 Eaglehawk married Ann Gowland 1888.
Elizabeth 1867 Eaglehawk married 1888 John William Fred Schmidt
Martha 1871 Eaglehawk
Agnes born 1872 and died22.6. 1873 Eaglehawk
Ellen (Nellie)1876 Nerrin Nerrin  registered Nerring died 24.4.1887 Eaglehawk.
There's a picture on Find my grave of the parents grave with the 3 children.Eaglehawk Cemetery.
John William Black born 1817 Ireland died 2.1.1892 Bendigo Victoria and Jane Russell Black Ireland 1837-21.5.1894
There's also a tree on Ancestry with a picture of their daughter Margaret Ann Black.
John may have  have arrived on the Hive to NSW in 1835 from Antrim.He was convicted 1.7.1835 of stealing clothes.Protestant ,he could R&W.He got 7 years was 5ft 21/2 ruddy and freckled.Brown hair and eyes,small scar on forehead and left knuckle forefinger and little finger.He had been a farmer's boy.
Not sure about that last bit ,because he is in NSW and at  the same time as a Jane Russell born 1837 appears at Darlinghurst prison but she appears in the prison register on and off after the birth of their first child until 1862.
Ciderdrinker

[rosball]

I don't know if you have this but here is marriage announcement for William Scilley and Martha Black
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88958983

Scilley—Black.—On the 18th February, at the residence of the bride's sister (Mrs. Hadden),
King street, by the Rev. R. Lewers, William, eldest son of Mr Thomas Scilley, of Kotunga, to
Martha, youngest daughter of Mr. John Black, late of Eaglehawk.

cheers,
   Ros

[ciderdrinker]

There's a Mary Black married William James Hadden Victoria 1877.
William James Hadden born 1850 and died 1882 Sandhurst.
There's also an death notice for Jenny Black  21.5.1894 King Street relict of John Black of Eaglehawk age 55 years.
So the gravestone may be 10 years out.
Ciderdrinker
Yes had a look at the Australia death index and there she is age 56 d of William Russell died Bendigo ,Victoria

[ciderdrinker]

There's also Elizabeth's marriage on Trove 19.3.1888 as the fourth daughter of John Black of Eaglehawk in the Bendigo Advertiser.J.W.Frederick Schmidt of Christ church  New Zealand.
Mary's 30.10.1877 and she is the eldest daughter .Husband William James Hadden eldest so of Archibald of Tyrone.
She dies as Mary Williams Coburg Victoria 1923 age 65 so born 1858
Death for Sampson Rodda s in law 6.7.1924 husband of Jane 6 Vautier St Elwood Melbourne.The marriage seems to have been in 1905 Northam Western Australia.She died Malvern Victoria 1938 daughter of John Black and Jane Russell age 78
Ciderdrinker

[rosball]

SCILLEY. —On the 15th April, 1931, at his residence, 5 Vautier street, Elwood, William, dearly 
loved husband of Martha Scilley, loving father of Ethel (deceased), Russell, Ruby, Irene, Isabel,   
Mena, and Alan, aged 66 years. —Peace, perfect peace. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4382891

cheers,
  Ros

[Joyful]

WOW! Thank you so much Ciderdrinker and Ros...I am now off to flying start

Martha Black (m W Scilley) is the G/Grandmother of my OH and he knew, nothing about her

or her family, she was just a name. Naturally, I couldn't leave it at that and thanks to both of you

he now knows quite alot more. I only started last night so it's amazing what you've found already.

Many thanks
Joy