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Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« on: Wednesday 30 October 13 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am new to this site and was wondering if anybody could help me in finding Richard Dykes father.
I have come to a stumbling block and don't know what to do next.

Richard Dykes is my 3rd great grandfather, he was born in Bassingham, Lincolnshire about 1828. The first time he appears in any documents is the 1841 census when at the age of 12 it shows him living on his own. But on closer inspection I presume he is living with the family immediately above in the census - The Tindalls.

I am presuming (again) that Charlotte Elizabeth Tindall (nee Peacock) is his mother and had him illegitimately before marrying James Tindall. (It is interesting to note that Richard Dykes had a daughter named Charlotte also).  Charlotte came from Rolleston in Nottinghamshire born abt 1805, but I cannot find any birth records for her.  I found a birth for a Richard Peacock in Bassingham on 31 August 1828, but the father is named as William Peacock.

All seems pretty straight forward but on ordering Richard's marriage certificate (to Elizabeth Dansby on 19 Mar 1850 in Nocton, Lincolnshire) his father is named as William Dykes, Labourer....this is my stumbling block, I have no further information on William Dykes and would love to go further back on the Dyke's family tree. I remember my mum telling me that the name Dykes came from Holland, when the labourer's called "Dykers" came from Holland to dig the canals etc. And I do know that my Grandad Dykes went to Holland shortly before he died.

So, is William Dykes a "Dyker" or a Van Dyke or Dike or is he a Dykes from Scotland?

I am well and truly stuck and do not know which way to go now.

Any information would be much appreciated.

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

It was very common for illegitimate children to invent a father when they married so as to appear "respectable"  but that may not necessarily be the case here

IF - Richard was the illegitimate son of Charlotte - then his surname would more likely have been Peacock

When did Charlotte marry Tindall?  Did she marry him as Dykes or Peacock?  Is she shown as a widow or a spinster
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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

FS has this marriage, maybe relevant

Richard Dykes mar. Elizabeth Dansby 1850 in Nocton, he was 20, his father: William Dykes
Brides father:  Jacob Dansby

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is a William Dykes and a Martha christening children in Waddington which is about 7 miles from
Bassingham.

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

It was very common for illegitimate children to invent a father when they married so as to appear "respectable"  but that may not necessarily be the case here

IF - Richard was the illegitimate son of Charlotte - then his surname would more likely have been Peacock

When did Charlotte marry Tindall?  Did she marry him as Dykes or Peacock?  Is she shown as a widow or a spinster
Hi,
She married James Tindall on 31 Dec 1831 in Bassingham, Lincolnshire, surname Peacock but doesn't say whether spinster or widow.
Sorry, not much help but I cannot find the record in BMD only on a couple of other
online sites.
Tracey.

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

FS has this marriage, maybe relevant

Richard Dykes mar. Elizabeth Dansby 1850 in Nocton, he was 20, his father: William Dykes
Brides father:  Jacob Dansby

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Hi Claire,
Yes, thank you, I have a copy of the marriage certificate.
Thanks for your help.
Tracey.

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Were either of the witnesses to his 1850 marriage surname Dykes

The Tindall/Peacock marriage is before Civil Registration so you would have to lookup the entry in the parish record to see her marital status.

My personal opinion is that Richard was just lodging with them and is not Charlotte's son.

 
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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is this christening record for a Richard Peacock

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=6042035

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Re: Richard Dykes abt 1828-1899 Lincolnshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

What about the Richard Peacock birth in Bassingham in 1828 ?  The father is named as William Peacock, do you not think that the William was the father's name and used her own surname.  My grandfather was illegitimate and on his marriage certificate the first name of his father was the birth father and the surname was his mother's marriage name.

One witness was from his wife's side of the family and the other witness must have been a friend, as at this moment in time I do not recognise the name.

Tracey