Swans of Northumberland

[..claire..]

Right

This is the burial records for Robert and Dorothy's son, age fits for 1759 birth

St Cuthbert, Bedlington
Robert Swan buried 21 May 1826, aged 66.

This is your Ann Swan's fathers burial, abode consistent with baptism records of children

St Mary the Virgin, Horton
Robert Swan buried 25 Sep 1819, aged 50 (birth abt. 1769-1770)
Abode: Cowpen High House.

claire

[Anydogsbody]

Claire

That helps to establish that my own line of descent is not directly from Robert Swan 1759, son of Robert Swan and Dorothy Rickerby.

There's a slight mismatch between Robert Swan's age at death(50) as against his age at marriage.
Marriage licence would make him born 1772 (30 in 1802) whereas age as declared on death would give  him a birth year of around 1769-70, as you say.

I'm more inclined to believe his own statement of age on his marriage application rather than what may be someone else's recollection of his age at death but it might be worth looking back at the Horton Transcripts slightly earlier.

I would guess that his father(probably Robert, why be different?) would have been born 1750ish but where?

[Anydogsbody]

Claire/Paul

I've been getting the feeling that Cowpen High House and the association with Swans was important.

Found this at Horton St Mary the Virgin which may be useful. I need to try and reconcile dates on this gravestone with Horton BTs but the names and the location are spot on for my family.

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&grave=289277&personid=619306

My brain is numb with all these Swans so I'll leave it until tomorrow before I tackle that but I sense we might be about to get some sort of breakthrough.

Would welcome your thoughts

[..claire..]

Hey!!

That looks very promising indeed   

claire

[..claire..]

Found one baptism in Horton so far

Joseph Swan bp. 20 September  1773 Horton by Blyth. Parents: Joseph and Ann

claire

[..claire..]

others

Robert bp. 7 May 1767 Horton, parents: Joseph and Ann

Mary bp. 4 September 1768, Horton, parents: Joseph and Ann

I think this is your family!!!!

claire

[Anydogsbody]

Claire

The real problem I'm having with this is with Isabella Hindmarsh who apparently was 27 when she married Robert Swan in 1802 and that doesn't square with the date on the gravestone.

Horton BTs give children of Joseph and Ann Swan, Cowpen

Joseph 20/9/1773
Ann 22/7/1770

I can't see a birth record for Mary but there's a death on 20/9/1773.

Bizarrely it would appear that Mary's death coincided with Joseph's birth.

BTs also record the death of Ann Swan 3/3/1771 and in July 1772 the death of "a child of Joseph Swan, Cowpen.

Robert, I presume, is the husband of Isabella but why is she described as a cousin when she was actually a sister-in-law?

So, there are a few inconsistencies to sort out but overall I feel this is a step forward.

[Anydogsbody]

I think our posts crossed but you've come to the same conclusion as me. Keep digging!

[..claire..]

Hi

Remember the Isabella Hindmarsh that was married to Robert~ would be a 'Swan' when she died

This burial will be her

Isabella SWAN buried 22 Feb 1817 St Mary the Virgin, Horton.
Aged: 40
Abode: Cowpen High House.

The Isabella Hindmarsh on the gravestone must be another rellie we've yet to suss out 

claire