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Ellen Stockton 1851 Census
« on: Wednesday 30 October 13 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I have found on a census from 1851 an Ellen Stockton who is registered as being part of a 'travelling caravan' in Dallam Warrington.

I don't actually know what this means! Was she a traveler or part of a circus?

Edit: Her husband Robert Williams (born 1816) is listed as being a 'showman'. What in actuality does this mean?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Ellen Stockton 1851 Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Sounds very much like a travelling circus
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Re: Ellen Stockton 1851 Census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 17:55 GMT (UK) »
It does!

Her Husband's dad (Robert Williams born 1794), is listed as a 'bindlestaff' and also a 'wire worker'. He also is listed as living in a travelling caravan in Dallam. I am unsure what a bindlestaff is, but I've read working with metals was a gypsy occupation.

Where travelling caravans part of the gypsy community or separate to it?

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Re: Ellen Stockton 1851 Census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 October 13 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi. Greg. Although showmen and romany folk both. Live in caravans.  They are very different. And remember that to gorgios./non travellers.  A caravan olso mean a band of people travelling together. I am fairly sure that your people are  showmen. As to the occupation bindlestaff. I think it may be a broom maker.just a guess. But travelling folks did make brushes. ..rob.
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Re: Ellen Stockton 1851 Census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 November 15 07:07 GMT (UK) »

The Williams Family would use Dallam Lane, Warrington for parking up during the winter and also when there was no fairs to go to, this may have been for a few days or a few weeks.
The William family are travelling Showmen, and are still traveling the fairs today (2015).
 
Regards Ted.
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