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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 02:06 GMT (UK) »

1885/11831 Hobbs Oxevel /Alice Theresa/ William


Cheers Janette

Think the above should be Oswald.   I see a school record for Oswald Hobbs, birthdate 12 June 1885. Onga Onga School, parent/guardian W Hobbs.

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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I think we have now finally established that the William Frederick Hobbs we are looking for, is the one who died in 1923 aged 92 years; (therefore born about 1831), having been in New Zealand for 75 years; therefore arriving about 1848..........

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 03:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I think we have now finally established that the William Frederick Hobbs we are looking for, is the one who died in 1923 aged 92 years; (therefore born about 1831), having been in New Zealand for 75 years; therefore arriving about 1848..........

Minniehaha.

Agreed Minniehaha

Gaygirl,please read all the posts carefully as we seem to have been going round in circles with regards to this being the correct family or not  ;D ;D


Cheers Janette  ;D

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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 06:30 GMT (UK) »
The surviving son (Mr. F. Hobbs) mentioned in the 1923 obituary would have been Frederick William Hobbs, born 1871.

He died in 1936 aged 65 years.

There is a WW1 army file held @ Wellington Archives.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 07:48 GMT (UK) »
The surviving son (Mr. F. Hobbs) mentioned in the 1923 obituary would have been
Frederick William Hobbs, born 1871.

He died in 1936 aged 65 years.

There is a WW1 army file held @ Wellington Archives.


Frederick William Hobbs occ Farm Lab.
Regimental Number:   25877 Rank L/Cpl
Relative Name:   Mrs J J Cosgrave (sister ) 27 Church Street West Palmerston North
Embarkation:   1916

NZ ER's
1919 Palmerston
33 Campbell Street
Rhoda & John Joseph Cosgrove painter

1911 Waipawa Hawke’s Bay
Rhoda & John Joseph Cosgrove painter
   
Think this might be William & Frederick on NZ ER's

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981

dates 1880-81, 85-86, 90, 96, 1900, 1905-06, 1911 Waipawa Hawke's Bay
William Hobbs Onga Onga Shepherd
William's address 1905-06 Ashcott, Onga Onga
1911 William Hobbs Retired Shepherd Waipawa,
1896/1900 Frederick William Hobbs Ashley Clinton Station hand
1905-06, 1911 Frederick William Hobbs Onga Onga labourer
1928, 1935 Frederick William Hobbs Takapau, Farm hand

and here's daughter Mary Jane

dates 1890, 96, 1900, 05-06, 1911, 1914, 1928
Henry David Limbrick Waipawa Shepherd
MARY JANE Onga Onga (1900)
MARY JANE Waipawa married (1905-06)
Henry David occ Stable Proprietor, MARY JANE (1911/14/19)
both living Kenilworth Street Waipawa (1928)


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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 08:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ladyhawk

Those details are all looking good to me.

You definitely have the right family - my husband's grandmother lived in Kenilworth St. in Waipawa and he lived next door to her.

Thanks for the interesting info.

Gay
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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 02:32 GMT (UK) »
Possibly my last contribution to this topic.......

Yesterday I could not find the marriage of Mrs. P. Bird, one of the daughters mentioned in the obituary for William Frederick Hobbs.

I now think this was Lucy Maud, born 1886. She married Peter Bell Baird in 1910.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:10 GMT (UK) »


I received the email certificate today - what a quick turnaround compared to UK.

As was suggested I am still no further with my search as the Marriage cert. doesnt have the place of birth and time in NZ so that is probably my last chance to be sure of any details.

What would be on the first child's birth cert in 1868?

Thanks for all your help.

Gay
Reseraching - Gibson Flannagan Chiverton Ellwood Limbrick Hobbs Baldock Law Payne Sanders Cartwright Beard Tanner Hall

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Re: Arrival in NZ circa 1865 passenger list
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Gay

if you have a look here, you will see what is on the NZ birth certificates.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/birth.aspx

Better to get one of the ones from after 1875 as there should be more on it.

Ian C
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