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John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« on: Sunday 27 October 13 10:10 GMT (UK) »

It's believed that John Lewis Johnson was born 1885 in Derbyshire, died
in the same are around 1949/50.

John married Eliza (maiden name unknown) prior to 1912.
They had one known son Ernest Lewis Johnson born 1915 in Derby.

any help in regards to the Johnson family of Derby - would be appreciated

many thanks.   J.

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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 October 13 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Is this the Derby birth you are referring to (from freebmd)   :)

June qtr 1915
Johnson    Ernest L    (mothers maiden name Lees)
Shardlow    7b   1028

this birth links with the following marriage but she isn't Eliza  ::)

March qtr 1913
Johnson    John L   (spouse Lees)   
Lees    Marion    (spouse Johnson)   
Basford    7b   433   
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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 October 13 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi rosie99
We were always lead to believe that her name was 'Eliza'  as it
appeared on the sons death cert.   The Informant must not have known of
the mother's name.


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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 November 13 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Just having a quick look at freebmd, there is only 1 John Lewis Johnson around the birth year you quoted and that is q/e Jun 1884 Newcastle under Lyme Staffordshire reg. district vol 6b page 83.

Shirl
North,Noble,Harrison,Seller - North Riding Yorks parishes
Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
Longridge - Northumberland/Durham
Freeman - Hampshire, Oxfordshire,Sussex
Smith - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
Whitehead - Yorkshire
Morris - St Pancras Yorkshire etc


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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 November 13 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Just having a quick look at freebmd, there is only 1 John Lewis Johnson around the birth year you quoted and that is q/e Jun 1884 Newcastle under Lyme Staffordshire reg. district vol 6b page 83.

Shirl

It looks as though he died in infancy
Birth June qtr 1884
Johnson    John Lewis -Newcastle L.    6b   83
    
Death September qtr 1884 
Johnson    John Lewis   age  0    Newcastle L.    6b   48
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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 November 13 17:20 GMT (UK) »
I think you are right about that death rosie, back to the drawing board!

Shirl
North,Noble,Harrison,Seller - North Riding Yorks parishes
Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
Longridge - Northumberland/Durham
Freeman - Hampshire, Oxfordshire,Sussex
Smith - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
Whitehead - Yorkshire
Morris - St Pancras Yorkshire etc

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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 November 13 17:41 GMT (UK) »
John may have been married before he married Marion Lees

In 1901 census there is a John L Johnson aged 24 married to Esther Johnson aged 23
also together in 1911 and John is named John Lewis Johnson and gives his birthplace as Sawley
There is a death of a Esther Johnson in 1911 aged 33

Carol
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 November 13 18:00 GMT (UK) »
I had been looking at that one and thought it possible Carol, the only thing that threw me was the Nottingham reg dist death for Esther. :) 

I think that this could have been his birth with first names wrong way round, I have also seen a christening for him.
Births Dec 1876 
Lewis John Johnson
Shardlow    7b   450
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Re: John Lewis Johnson - Derbyshire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 November 13 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Baptism with Lewis John and it is Sawley, from parish record extract

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY4Q-8ZK

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North,Noble,Harrison,Seller - North Riding Yorks parishes
Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
Longridge - Northumberland/Durham
Freeman - Hampshire, Oxfordshire,Sussex
Smith - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
Whitehead - Yorkshire
Morris - St Pancras Yorkshire etc