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anastasia...was she anna anderson
« on: Saturday 26 October 13 19:52 BST (UK) »
I have been fascinated by the story since reading in search of the tsar.

So what do you all think.  Did she escape?

Sandra

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Re: anastasia...was she anna anderson
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 October 13 19:55 BST (UK) »
Since all the books, movie in 1950s and numerous articles were done there were DNA tests which disproved her claim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Anderson
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 October 13 20:05 BST (UK) »
New book published 2012 disputes that.

The lost Romanov Icon and the enigma of anastasia provides an interesting read.
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 October 13 20:12 BST (UK) »
New book published 2012 disputes that.

The lost Romanov Icon and the enigma of anastasia provides an interesting read.
Sandra

... which is an historical novel  :-\
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Re: anastasia...was she anna anderson
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 October 13 22:34 BST (UK) »
DNA tests proved that Anna Anderson was not Anastasia.  And the bones found in two separate graves were conclusively proved to be of the Tsar, the Tsarina, their four daughters and their son.  The first grave contained nine victims (Nicholas, Alexandra, three daughters, the doctor, valet, cook, maid) and the second two victims - the other daughter and Alexei.

But that doesn't stop people writing imaginative stories - some are very entertaining!

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 October 13 22:48 BST (UK) »
 The only DNA test done used an old  fragment of Anna Anderson`s intestine from the hospital laboratory in America, where she lived after leaving Europe.
 T hat someone should escape from the cellar in the Ypatiev House in Ekaterinburg,  seems imposssible ,however it is such an enormous coincidence that "Anna Anderson" should have had several conditions which Anastasia had :-                                                                                  a Both  had very bad bunions, really bad and they can be discerned on the childhood photographs  os Anastasia where she wears little silk shoes. I don`t man ordinary bunoins but bunions like onions which deform the feet.Halux valgus.                                                                              b) Anastasia `s ring finger on her left hand was stiff as a result of the sailor who carried the little Tsarevitch about, closing the carriage door on it when Anastasia had her hand in the way. The imperial family were on the way to a major religeous event( probablyEaster) and so carried on with the engagement. It must have been broken and so healed stiff. Identical injury to A.A`s finger.
c) Anna Anderson had T,B of the sternum and this was a common illness in the Romanov family and Anastasia( if it was her) could well have developed it when on her mysterious travels which took her to Gemany.
d) Anna Anderson said she remembered  a German prince visiting her "father" the Tsar, during the first world war, this seemed unlikely as of course they were on opposing sides but there was a family connection with the Tsarina. Later when state papers were released it was found such a visit had indeed taken place, in an effort to start peace talks. This was a secret visit.
E ) The ears of A.A and Anastasia are the same shape.


 I was first attracted to the story when given an old  photograph album of reproduced family photos taken by Queen Alexandra, whichhad been  sold for charity, I saw the four little girls in their gorgeous dresses and asked my mum about, Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia . She told me the story and I`ve been doing research in an informal way ever since( some 68 years)
 We will never know the truth and people like lord Louis Mountbatten- who had a vested interest in it NOT being Anastasia -did not help(.He was not all sweetness and light!!!)
But  the Tsar was a weak person not really suited to rule over Russia, his German wife very unpopular, it was seen better that his much more able brother Grand Duke Michael should become Tsar.It was a case of saving the dynasty against one weak man , with  four daughters and a very ill son who may not live to adulthood.  Cruel but practical.  They really thought they would regain the throne  and a strong Tsar would be a better bet . This was why the Dowager Empress and the rest of the family dare not meet Anna Anderson, she might just have been her granddaughter .How painful would it be to deny someone you had met and recognised?          Viktoria.

     
                                                                             

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Re: anastasia...was she anna anderson
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 October 13 22:54 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: anastasia...was she anna anderson
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 October 13 23:06 BST (UK) »
Anna Anderson did seem to know an amazing amount about Anastasia's background.



I have been captured by the story for years.  Sandra

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 October 13 23:32 BST (UK) »
My mistake, but I was so interested for years before DNA testing  and the physical similarities seemed reasonably conclusive. She looked  so like her three sisters on many photographs which is
 also a strange coincidence. The three girls were not really alike at first glance  but she looked like them all from time to time though illness etc. But I  feel there is a mystery there and as I said we`ll never really know. The DNA tests prove she could not have been  Anastasia.But  for  two people to have  the same  three physical characteristics is really strange.
 Anna Anderson stated that the family,or at least her, were not shot in the Ypatiev house.  "No ,,Not there".Ah well, it`s kept me out of mischief for a good many years.! Viktoria.