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Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« on: Tuesday 22 October 13 20:10 BST (UK) »
I have come to a brick wall, but I understand that there is a possibility that the Protestation Records might help for the 1600's. Is anyone familiar with these records and whether they would be likely to help? I am trying to find the parents of my ancestor Thomas Dixon who was baptised in 1703 at Bishop Thornton in the parish of Ripon. He later married Ann Lewty on 8 September 1725 at Ripley Parish Church.
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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 21:07 BST (UK) »
I had a quick look and as I see it the Protestation Records relate to 1641/42 if my understanding is right which I would say is a bit early for your 1703 baptism.

How do you know the baptism was in 1703 ?

There is a marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry in Ripon in 1699 but no way of telling if that relates to your Thomas Dixon.

James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 22:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply.

The baptism is mentioned in IGI. They had four children that I am aware of Thomas Dixon bap 27/9/1726, William Dixon bap 7/12/1729, John Dixon bap 11/05/1731 and Robert Dixon bap 26/2/1735 - all at Burnt Yates where Anne Lewty came from.

Where did you obtain the information about the marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry in Ripon in 1699?
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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 22:23 BST (UK) »
Hmm I must have missed it on the IGI - will look again (looked again, still don't see it. I'll leave it for now and look tomorrow)

(I have Ripon records but the 1703 baptism that you mention isn't in it. As I understand it Bishop Thornton records don't start until 1816)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.


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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 14:27 BST (UK) »
I have looked at the IGI again and I can see the 1725 marriage you mention and the four children baptised thereafter. I still cannot locate the 1703 baptism of Thomas that you mention

From the Ripon registers I can find the marriage of a Thomas Dixon and Anne Terry both of Sharow on 19 May 1699

There is then a baptiem of a daughter Elizabeth to a Thomas Dixon of Sharow on 2 April 1700.

Finally there is a death of a Thomas Dixon, yeoman of Sharrow (sic), on 18 April 1702. Don’t know if this is the Thomas who marries Anne Terry or another one

(I also looked under the name Dickson)

Sharow is just to the east of Ripon, and is 8 miles from Bishop Thornton

I understand that findmypast.co.uk are transcribing Yorkshire parish records to be online next year or shortly thereafter, so if all else fails that is a possible source for the future.
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 14:52 BST (UK) »
The Thomas Dixon b 1703 maybe on the old submission webpage that used to be on the old LDS website or another variant of spelling of Dixon in the IGI


Only a maybe

Members of the Latterday saints church have to take their ancestry back 6 generation to re baptize them

The marriage 1725 in Ripley may have been by licence, if so ? there are bond allegation records of intent to marry that give the age of the intended groom and his parish of birth .

 In this case Thomas would have been 22 in 1725, = born 1703. Then the LDS members looked around to find marriages of possible parents and baptisms in the parish of birth given on the Bond allegation record.

If they could not find a baptism for Thomas b 1703 ? but there was only one family of Dixon's  baptizing siblings ! after a marriage!! in that parish of birth of Thomas given in the bond allegation ! then the LDS member made a record of their own in the LDS submissions naming parents name of the family of Dixon run of sibling baptisms in that parish as parents of Thomas b 1703

As long as Thomas Dixon who married 1725 in Ripley aged 22 (If by licence) was re baptized today was the most important objective of the member of the LDS and the likely parent name secondary

If  Thomas Dixon (sr)  and Ann Terry marriage 1699 (maybe by licence as well)? Ripon was the parents Maybe this Thomas left a Will/probate naming his son Thomas (Jr) b 1703 in the Will
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 15:50 BST (UK) »
This link gives where the parish registers are held for Ripon

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/CBW/WRY/Ripon.html
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 22:27 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all the information that your have so kindly supplied. The Ripley Parish register shows the marriage on '8 September 1725 Thomas Dixon of Thornton in the Parish of Ripon and Anne Lewty of Burnt Yates'. My notes from the IGI show the birth about 1703 of Thomas Dixon in Ripley Yorkshire on Film 457913 and as a second source batch A04028-7 Film 448970. I do not understand why, however, that since Family Search has changed its web site I can now no longer access these sources.
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Re: Thomas Dixon baptised 1703 Bishop Thornton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 22:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks for sharing the film and batch numbers, I have been playing around with them but cannot get any results either. very strange

It is possible to email familysearch give them the film numbers and ask why you can no longer find them on the search facility
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.