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Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« on: Sunday 20 October 13 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thomas Delbridge was born June 1846 in St. Agnes, Cornwall.

 Mary Jane Ingram was born Jan 1846 in Hayle. 

They married 1866 in the Redruth district, probably Hayle area.  I would love to know more about their predecessors. 

I believe Thomas Delbridge's parents were Thomas Delbridge b. 1820 and Caroline Bond b. abt. 1821.

I believe Mary Jane Ingram's parents were Tobias Ingram and Mary Watts who descended from the Arundel family so more known in that line. 

Thank you for whatever help there might be to offer for the Delbridges or Ingrams. 

Barry Foster 

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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 October 13 23:40 BST (UK) »
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I believe Thomas Delbridge's parents were Thomas Delbridge b. 1820 and Caroline Bond b. abt. 1821.

The 1851 for St Keverne appears to contradict that - parents are shown as John & Frances

http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

John Delbridge   33   Copper Miner  St Agnes       
Frances   Wife     31    St Agnes       
Mary  11  St Agnes       
John  9   Scholar   St Agnes       
Frances    F  St Agnes       
Thomas  5  St Agnes       
Isaac   3   Crowan
HO107 Piece 1913 Folio 428 Page 13 

The Thomas Delbridge with parents Thomas & Caroline was born 1844 Gwennap according to the 1861 census

Do you have a copy of the 1866 marriage cert showing his fathers name and occupation

The 1851 shows Mary Jane Ingram b Phillack with parents Tobias & Mary
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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 October 13 23:57 BST (UK) »
1871 census shows Thomas as 24 and born St Agnes and a blacksmith. RG10/5622 folio 26 pg 6 The Thomas son of Thomas & Caroline is slightly older
1851 Mingoose, St Agnes HO107/1909 folio 660 pg 18
Thomas Delbridge head mar 32 blacksmith
Caroline wife 30 b. St Austle
Thomas son 8
Mary dau 6
Elizth dau 6
Jane dau 2 mo
all born St Agnes except Caroline
You'll need the marriage cert to be sure.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 October 13 00:04 BST (UK) »
There is also this 1871 entry

Mary Delbridge 29 b St Agnes not Hayle - wife of miner in Brazil
Thomas 3 b Gwennap
Caroline 1b Gwennap
RG10 Piece 2313 Folio 19 Page 1

This would appear to be the wife and family of the Thomas with parents Thomas & Caroline

However - if you are looking for a Thomas Delbridge b St Agnes 1846 - - there is another possibility

You need the marriage cert
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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 October 13 00:08 BST (UK) »
There is an 1867 marriage on freebmd in Redruth - Thomas Delbridge to either Mary Jane Roberts or  Catherine Man Johns

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V51Z-B5F
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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 October 13 00:18 BST (UK) »
I think the parents as John & Frances are more likely for the Thomas born 1846. They are in Phillack in 1861 and son Thomas is a blacksmith. By 1871 Thomas and wife Mary J are in Forden Montgomeryshire. Do you have certs to be sure which Thomas & Mary you're descended from?

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 October 13 01:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for all the great leads.  I agree that I probably had the parents of Thomas Delbridge incorrect.  The 1871 census evidence with Thomas that Osprey mentions is definitely my great great grandfather.  The wife and children are correct as is the profession.  He died in California in 1886, age 40 and his profession was well-documented as a blacksmith. 

I do now have a marriage certificate link.  They were Methodists.  I believe they were married in 1866 but can't be certain right now.

Thanks again for all the efforts!

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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 October 13 11:15 BST (UK) »
do you have a birth certificate for one of the children to confirm Mary's maiden name so that you can be sure you're following the right family?

Ellen Delbridge jun qtr 1869 Redruth vol 5c pg 274

When you've confirmed the maiden name, you can be sure of the marriage. Certs available from the GRO
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas DELBRIDGE m. Mary Jane INGRAM
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 October 13 17:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the tips.  I am 100% sure that the mother was Mary Jane Ingram.  The daughter, Ellen, you reference was indeed born 31 May 1869 in Hayle.  Ellen stayed in California after her father died and the mother returned to England.  Ellen had married another Cornish transplant, William Tresidder.  Ellen was always in the same town as her sister, Mary Frances Delbridge Johns, until the sister died and then always quite close to her brother in law.  The Delbridges in England remain somewhat of a mystery.  I did have the wrong parents, though, and am glad to find out otherwise.