William Campbell/Ann McFall 1884 Clintyfinnan

[redquirrel]

Hi aghadowey, no there's no place of birth on the marriage cert, and i haven't actually tried to look for her death cert which may have it. I know she died after the 1930s because my uncle remembers her. But i think the record you have found must be her as her parents were married in the parish of Loughguile in the Registrar District of Ballymoney.

[aghadowey]

The good news is that you can order the 1888 birth certificate to find the names of both parents, exact date and place of birth. The bad news is that Irish certificates aren't a bit like Scottish ones and there won't be date and place of parents marriage, etc.

The Ballymoney registration district covers a wide area and it may be that the family moved around a bit before going to Scotland. There are Valuation Revision books online (free on www.proni.gov.uk) that cover this period but you need to look up by townland and then scroll through the pages.

See here for details on Irish certificates and how to order them-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=433041.0

[redquirrel]

Thank you so much for your help. I will get going on that right now

[aghadowey]

When you get more details let us know and we'll see what else we can find.

[redquirrel]

Hi, just a quick query. I did find a reference to a William Campbell listed as a tenant of Ellen Moore in Upper Ballycregagh (Barony of Upper Dunluce). But because i'm not sure what all the terms mean i don't know if this is my William Campbell, or how i go about finding out. (There are also no references to any McFalls either).
And in the section where it lists description of tenancy it says 'house', but others say 'Bog', and what looks like HoofsHand!!! Is that right?

[aghadowey]

William Campbell is paying an annual rent of (0.5.0) 5 shillings for a house (7b in list). The other holdings on the page are Bog, etc. but can't see anything like 'Hoofshand' (you can enlarge the page to make it easier to read).

That William Campbell is certainly in the right area but no way to tell if he's the one you are looking for. However, you can try to trace the property in the Valuation Revision Books to see approx. how long he stayed there, etc.
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm

[Elwyn Soutter]

what looks like HoofsHand!!! Is that right?

That’s probably the abbreviation for “house, offices and land”. (Offices means outbuildings eg cowsheds and henhouses etc).

[redquirrel]

Well, that makes a lot of sense now, thanks.

[redquirrel]

Hi, i have looked through the Valuation Revisions Book and i have a few more questions. Firstly, each volume of the valuation records cover quite a number of years, and i can't see if there's a way to narrow down information to a particular year. For example, William Campbell is listed in the 1897-1913 book, though his name is scored through and replaced with another, presumably because he has moved on. Secondly, this is probably not 'my' William Campbell, because he is recorded as being in Ballycregagh as late as 1897-1913, when William and Ann are on the 1891 census in Lanarkshire, so i fear i may not be further forward, unless anyone can suggest another avenue?