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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 October 13 10:26 BST (UK) »
Ok below is what I have found on the Census which could be my John. I am led to believe that Nuneaton wasn’t only a silk weaving area, but also a mining area. What is the chances of someone who was a silk weaver becoming involved in the mining industry and then reverting back to silk weaving?

1841 – HO107, Piece 979, Book 5, Enum District 9, Folio 5, Page 3
Darlaston, Staffordshire

Same residence, but different household to an Etchels family (no occupation or indication as to whether born in the county or not)

John Knight, 55
Mary Knight, 50
William Knight, 14


1851 – HO107 / 2021 / 146 / 6
Oxford Street, Bilston, Staffordshire

John Knight, Head, M, 60, Bailiff Colly (Colliary ?), Warwick: Nuneaton (transcribed as Muncater)
Mary Knight, Wife, M, 62, Warwick: Atherstone
William Knight, Son, U, 23, ?? Man Lab, Warwick: Nuneaton
Edward Crewson, Lodger, U, 23, Miner Coal, (can’t read birthplace)


1861 – RG9 / 3705 / 72 / 27
Bishop Auckland, Durham

Boarding with a Mulligan family
John Knight, Boarder, Mar, 69, Silkweaver, Warwick: Nuneaton


One problem I have with this is that if John was married to Mary Loe in 1807 then he would have been very young when he married - about 16 if you take his age as 60 from the 1851 Census.

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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 October 13 11:43 BST (UK) »
These are the IGI Nuneaton offerings for a John & Mary Knight:
Elizabeth 1803
Lucy 1805-1809
Daniel 1809 *
Sarah A 1810-1811
Sarah A 1812
Elizabeth 1816 *
Joseph 1819 *
Samuel 1822 *
Mary A 1825
William 1828
* christened the same time
This is another family who appear in 1841
george 1839
james 1841
mary a 1842
hannah 1845
If you believe his age in 1841 which is 55-59 as ages were rounded down there's an off chance he could have married in 1800 as he's listed as a minor.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 October 13 12:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jim

Will have to look at that tomorrow I'm off to bed now.

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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 October 13 13:52 BST (UK) »
For the purposes of the exercise I think you can say Joseph's mother is Mary Loe.
Although not unique it would be exceptional for a woman to have children over a 24 year period at this time.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 October 13 02:54 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help Jim it is really appreciated. I will now add Mary Loe as John's wife.

It is remarkable that a women had children over that period of time. I do have a few in my tree that had children over such a large period of time. The earliest was a Margery Spark who had at least 9 children between 1595 and 1617 - she names them all in her will.

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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #14 on: Monday 22 September 14 11:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Gail &n pmj99

This is really exciting. I've just stumbled across you guys and RootsChat when I entered James Chetwin. I'm just a novice @ this but have been  trying to gel together all the pieces on my ancesters.

I can trace back the James Chetwin you mentioned who married Catherine Kearnan (I haven't been able to go back further on James but you seem to have lots of information). You also mentioned their daughter Amelia - her sister Louisa, born January 1, 1856 in Sligo, Ireland was my great grandmother who married (aged 18) a William John Stokes (born Liverpool) on March 3, 1874 in Church of St. Michael in the Parish of Walton on the Hill, Lancashire. William John Stokes died in 1890 and Louisa and family (including Catherine) moved back to Dublin. Louisa married a second time to a John Duffy (nephew of Catherine and first cousin of Louisa). He was a businessman in Dublin (she obviously needed someone to pay the bills, I suppose).
James (my grandfather), son of Louisa and William Stokes, married Maria Fitzpatrick (my grandmother). Their daughter, also Louisa (my mother, died March 25, 1966 aged 47) married a Kieran Kenealy (my father, died June 30, 1978).
Louisa and Kieran had seven children, I, Peter, being the third born (June 20, 1949). Thankfully, we are all still alive.

Really looking forward to hearing from either of you to see if we can share any more information although I notice it's been some time since you have posted.

PetK

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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #15 on: Monday 22 September 14 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hello PetK

We must be related, not sure how at the moment though. I am in Australia and am in the middle of setting a new laptop up and will be going to bed soon. I will try to respond properly in a couple of days.

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 22 September 14 12:44 BST (UK) »
Gail,

So good to hear from you. Like you I am having some laptop problems, I think the one I have needs to go to a better place!

Looking forward to hearing from you l8r.

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Re: John Knight and his wives - I'm Confused
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 23 September 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
Hello again PetK

Not sure if Catherine Chetwin (nee Kearnan) moved to Dublin permanently, or if she was just visiting Louisa in 1901, as she died in Toxteth Park in 1904.

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