Thank you for this assistance. Let me give you some information which I hope will be pertinent. Jane was born 24 August 1827 and died 8 January, 1886, which meant she was 58 when she died, not 56 which is stated on the headstone and her death Certificate. Her husband was the informant. I have some discharge papers for him showing that he was a ship's carpenter on the Patriot out of South Shields from March 1846 to August 1849, and was working on the British Tan out of South Shields on the Cork - Llannelly Quebec run from 1851 to 1854, and that he arrived in Australia 24 Dec 1854 on the Stebonheath. It seems very unlikely he made another trip to Australia before 1854 and I believe he was working all of the time in Australia at the Wright Orr and Co docks which he eventually became a partner in. I have a birth Cert and Baptism Cert from the Society School in Harray which was extracted from the Registry of Births for the Parish of Harray (Orkney). Interestingly, this document was requested on 22nd Feb 1850, which he may have needed when he started working outside Scotland. Can you give me the document details that I would need to get the death certificate for the 2nd Son whose date of death is 1862. Interestingly, in John's hand writing on his birth certificate are the birth and death dates of all 3 sons named John, and the 2nd son was recorded as dying 2nd January 1861.