Robert Charles CLOVER

[geoff_43]

Hi you are correct

This is the right family. Elizabeth Mary Francis was a widow when she married Robert Charles Clover. She had two children who took the name Clover. In 1911 census the children tend to be using their middle names.

[keyboard86]

Hi there, I believe that the Clover family you refer to emigrated to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
In 1938 in the Voters register Mr & Mrs Robert Clover and Strathcona Clover are listed.
Mr Strathcona Clover died 15 Aug 1984 in New Westminster, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

Hi to add to this post, although you may already be aware:-

Death Strathcona Alderson Clover Birth 19th August 1915 Essex Death 15th August 1984 New Westminster, British Coulumbia aged 68 Marital Status Divorced Spouses name Ethel Rose Burden

And does this one appertain to your Owen Robert Clover?

Death Mona Georgina Clover Event Date 1st March 1937 Event Place North Vancouver, British Columbia aged 24 Married Birth Date 13th February 1913 Birth Place South Vancouver Fathers name John George Sentance Mothers Name Emma Georgina Waldron Spouses name Owen R Clover.

And does this one appertain to Kathleen Alice Cheverton

Death Patrick Albin Thynne Event date 2nd June 1981 White Rock, British Columbia aged 80 Marital status Married Birth Date 30th January 1901 Place Warrington, England Fathers name Thynne? (Checking the 1901 census his father was also a Patrick) Spouses name Kathleen Alice Cheverton.
Keyboard86

[Sinamint]

I didn't have a death date for Strathcona before so thank you both for that info. I'm assuming that's the right Strathcona 'cause it's such a unique name I don't imagine there would be another Strathcona Clover out there.

I had found a marriage index entry for a marriage between Georgina Sentance and Owen Robert C Clover so that could very well be the Mona Georgina Clover you mentioned.

I don't know if my Owen Clover was ever married or not, but, again, there can't be too many Owen Robert Charles Clover's out there I wouldn't think? According to these dates they were only married for 4 years before she died and she died very young. I wonder what happened to her?

Patrick Albin Thynne--I have no idea if that entry pertains to my Kathleen Alice Cheverton or not. I really know next to nothing about her unfortunately. Something else to look into further.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, I have been in terrible trouble trying to locate Elizabeth Mary Francis prior to marriage, it may be (if you wish to clearly follow the correct families back) purchase either of her marriage certs as I believe Elizabeth to be born a plain Elizabeth, and only appears to use the Mary middle name at marriage, do you have Ethels birth certificate to see if Elizabeth is an Elizabeth Mary or not?

I think she is the daughter possibly of Thomas and Matilda Francis, Matilda dies aged 40 and Elizabeth is with her Grandmother Elizabeth Rycroft in 1891 aged 9, which suggests that the age shown on the 1901 census is overstated.

Only thinking aloud, would be grateful for any thoughts!
Keyboard86

PS The birth date of Strathcona ties in with the Freebmd birth reg I depicted at the start.
Also where the hell is Clifford James Cheverton after 1911?

[geoff_43]

Hi Clifford James Cheverton used the name Clifford Clover (at least in the 1911 census) and when he enlisted during WW1. His Army records are on Ancestry.

Also gives his father as Robert Clover - soldier in Canada. Clifford enlisted in Colchester

[geoff_43]

Should have said,

I am descend from one of Robets's cousins. Am away at the moment, but should be able to help more tomorrow when I have my records to refer to

[keyboard86]

Hi Geoff_43 any chance of you posting a link to your thread re the family, as you 2 must be related, I see that a load of the info I had located is on it, but lots more which I found interesting!

Keyboard86

[haliared]

My CLOVER's are from Suffolk, I'll have to look and see if I can follow them down, they may join to Robert.

[geoff_43]

haliared

I have the line back to James Clover 1777-1855 who married Sarah Flowerday 1782-1855. James was baptised in Ramsey, Essex, England of Martha Clover. No father is mentioned, and he not referred to as 'base born'. There are other baptisms in Ramsey where parents are Martha and John Clover. Martha is always written 1st.

Does this relate to any of your line? So far I have found no Suffolk connection.


keyboard86

Probably being thick, but not sure what thread you mean. I have no online tree, so can not point you there.