Father of Thomas Smith born Hanslope, Northamptonshire, England

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There is    a SMITH family of Game keepers living in Horton, Northants in the 1841 census.

There is but I think it's more than likely a different family.  They have a daughter Ann with them on the 1851 Census born Horton.  Did they have a son Thomas at all in Horton, although as the wife is from Hanslope they could have been there previously?

Thanks to Marilyn for the 1850 marriage. 

In light of the 1851 Census entry at Tattenhoe, it doesn't surprise me that his father is listed as a labourer on that one but it seems more than likely to be the same person.  A search from Bucks FHS for baptisms would confirm if there is no other Thomas Smith born at Thornton at that time.

Sharon, I think it would be well worth you purchasing the 1846 death certificate for Eliza Smith buried at Wicken to see if she is indeed Eliza Read as it should say who she is the wife of on the certificate itself.  This would appear to be the death entry - Eliza Smith Jun qtr 1846 Potterspury 15 241 - that's the only one in the Registration District that year.  Stony Stratford, where that Thomas is resident at the time of the 1850 marriage, also comes under Potterspury Registration District.

[mgeneas]

I like the look of the Thornton/Tattenhoe family

There is a register office marriage of
Thomas   SMITH   of Whaddon, Bucks, labourer   Sarah   MITCHELL   of Wicken, widow   1847
Notice was given of the intended marriage at the Potterspury register office
(source a publication by the Eureka Partnership)

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There are three Maria Smith death registered in Buckinghamshire between 1841 and 1847 which could be his first wife.  Unfortunately it would depend on where they were as there is one in Jun qtr 1841 in Buckingham Registration District which covers Thornton, and two in Winslow RD which covers Tattenhoe in Jun qtr 1841 and March qtr 1843.  A burial search would probably be more productive to confirm when Maria died.

But I agree the Thornton/Tattenhoe family looks the most likely.

[seahall]

I am not sure why it was thought I said they were not born in Wicken.

Not sure why Sandy has suggested otherwise, but Eliza Read was more than likely born in Wicken because the family came from Wicken

Censuses were not a document to clarify details of folks places of birth as they were often
in-accurate, like in Eliza and children being born in Wicken, not Potterspury.

Good that it seems there are 2 families here , although confirmation of a death certificate may
not confirm the husband surely if someone if else is present at the death.

At least I have some that don't.

We can't quote from the National Burial Index or Eureka on Roots.

It would be great if we could as I have many Northants, Bucks publications by Eureka.

http://eurekapartnership.com/ and the N.B.I. 

Sandy

[seahall]

I have the burial for Eliza at Wicken from the Original Parish Register.

Wicken P.C.
Pg. 43, No. 343
Eliza Smith, Wicken, 12 April 1846, 26

Doesn't help with relatives.

Sandy

[seahall]

Also Elizabeth who was mentioned.

Wicken P.C.
Pg. 44, No. 347
Elizabeth Smith, Wicken, 17th Sep 1846, 2

Sandy

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I am not sure why it was thought I said they were not born in Wicken.

Not sure why Sandy has suggested otherwise, but Eliza Read was more than likely born in Wicken because the family came from Wicken

Sorry, just me getting confused, if you check my original posting, I edited it earlier when I realised.  Mind you it got me thinking that the Thomas and Eliza/Elizabeth Smith of Lillingstone Dayrell might not have been the correct couple.  I had only got the marriage of Thomas and Eliza on my own Read tree, plus a listing for son Joseph.  Couldn't say if I'd come across the Lillingstone family or not but I'd not have been happy about the Potterspury birthplace for the wife anyway.

although confirmation of a death certificate may not confirm the husband surely if someone if else is present at the death.

I agree, I have the odd one that doesn't mention the husband's name, but does mention his profession.  However, I suspect in this case it could well mention his name and profession, depending on who the informant was.  If it was anyone else in the family other than her husband, chances are they'd know anyway.  I still feel it would be needed to confirm beyond any doubt.  Have to wait and see how the OP feels about spending the money.

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Also Elizabeth who was mentioned.

Wicken P.C.
Pg. 44, No. 347
Elizabeth Smith, Wicken, 17th Sep 1846, 2

Sandy

Is there a baptism for this Elizabeth in Wicken at all Sandy please?  I don't have access to the OPRs as my mother has them.

[seahall]

Hi Nicola.

No I am afraid I don't, and Alan and Marilyn's records only go to
1843 on baptisms.

Just have the burials to 1857.

Sorry

Sandy

Edited I also change my postings .  I can see if the Library has it when next in.