Lawrence

[chaneyline]

Hello All,
Some time ago I had some help regarding the Lawrence's in Dover/Deal.
I have recently obtained a copy marriage certificate which has thrown my believed  line awry.
On the eighteenth of September 1877 my Gt Grandfather Charles (43 - labourer) married Elizabeth Hammond (previously Gardner) at the parish church of Gt Mongeham.

Fathers name is written as William Lawrence.

Prior to having this document I had believed that Charles's father name was Stephen married to Mary Ann Seath about 1830 and I had followed that line.
I have details of Census records for Stephen and Charles from 1841 onwards but the spanner thrown into the works has derailed me which a decent sized spanner might well do. And how do you pronounce Mongeham?

Thanks, Martin 

[CaroleW]

1881 shows Charles was b Deal 1836 but no 1841 entry matches a father William

[chaneyline]

Thanks, yes this is what has confused me.
Do you or anyone know how I would access the Parish Records for the Parish Church at Gt Mongeham?
Regards,
Martin

[CaroleW]

I think the parish church would be St Martin's but there is no guarantee that Charles was baptised there.

1851 - Charles - son of Stephen & Jane - is shown as b Gillingham and there is no entry for a Charles Laurence/Lawrence with a Deal birthplace

1861 has an entry for a Charles Lawrence b 1837 Deal who was in the Royal Navy & unmarried

1871 Charles Lawrence b 1837 Deal son of Stephen & Mary was unmarried & a sawyer

Is Charles shown as a bachelor on the 1877 marriage cert given he was 43 at that time

[chaneyline]

Hello CarolW,
There is a Charles Lawrence on the 1851 census aged 14 living in Deal, parents Stephen and Mary at 4 Silver Street, Deal. I had that as one of my reference points to the Stephen Lawrence line.
Also the Navy one on 1861 census. In 1871 he is 34 unmarried still living with parents Stephen and Mary.
On the GRO certificate he is a bachelor 43 married to Elizabeth Hammond 38 (widowed) previously Gardner.
As I said William Lawrence as his father on the certificate has thrown me off track.
I can only assume that the Charles I have been following on 1841/51/61/71 is the wrong Charles for my line or the William named as father on the GRO certificate is a) not his dad b) forgotten his name was Stephen, c) was mad or d) had done it for a bet.

So frustrating this ancestry lark.
Martin

[panda40]

Might help and it might not but there is a Charles Lawrence baptised in Deal St Leonard 13 May 1838 father William mother Mary Ann. fathers occupation is a labourer.
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[panda40]

Ps you pronounce Mongeham Mongham

[panda40]

William Lawrence married Mary Ann Barwick at Deal St Leonard 6July 1834
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[panda40]

1841 census ref 470/. 3/8   10 Eastry shows parents William and Mary with a son called Charles born 1838.
address cottage place Sholden.
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