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West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« on: Tuesday 08 October 13 20:47 BST (UK) »
Hi, I'm trying to locate 18th/19th century BMDs for the West Lane Wesleyan chapel in Haworth. They do not seem to be available online, or held either at the National Archives or the WYAS. I've asked them directly, but have not heard back from them yet.

I know that they (at least partially) exist as I have a copy of someone's research from the 1980's which makes reference to the marriage records.

Does anyone know where they may be? Or how far back their records go?

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 03:21 BST (UK) »
Ollie

Are they not covered by the Non-conformist records collection listed on ancestry for West Yorkshire?

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 16:35 BST (UK) »
Bear in mind that before 1837, there was no such thing as a Wesleyan (or Methodist) marriage. The only bodies allowed to conduct marriages before then were the established Church of England, Quakers and Jews, and unless there is evidence of a Jewish or Quaker connection, the normal place to look for a marriage would be the C of E parish registers.

After 1837 there were other possibilities, though in many cases, while non-conformist church and chapel buildings were licensed for marriages, their ministers weren't authorised to register them, so superintendent registrars used to attend to carry out the registration, bringing the registers with them.

These registers, as far as I know, remain in the register offices, and aren't online as part of, for example, Ancestry's collections of West Yorkshire parish and non-conformist registers. Marriages should be included in the GRO and local indexes, and if you're using YorkshireBMD (or one of the other UKBMD sites) you'll see the location given as "Authorised Building".

Once a chapel had its own registers, when these were full they may have been deposited somewhere and thus potentially be available for public inspection. Registers held in register offices are normally not available to view.

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 17:17 BST (UK) »
As far as I can see from my copy of the WYAS Nonconformist Registers Collection Guide, they do not hold the records for West Lane Wesleyan. 

It is possible that they have not been deposited anywhere and are still in the possession of the church/chapel.  Perhaps a telephone call to the resident minister might be a good idea as I see that it is still in operation.

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 17:29 BST (UK) »
The link I provided for Bradford gives this info

Lower Town Wesleyan Haworth,

Bishops Transcripts, 1660 - 1847 Mf.
Briths/baptisms 1806 - 1837, Burials 1807 - 1837
Transcripts 1645 - 1995, 6 vols.

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 17:42 BST (UK) »
familysearch has birth/bap 1806-1837  under batch C086031

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 18:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your replies;

@Clever clogs:
Alas, they are not on Ancestry or any other website, that I can discern. Ancestry won't have them if the WYAS/NA don't!

@libby9/mazi:
Alas, these refer to a different Wesleyan chapel in a nearby town (Oxenhope) which was built in 1805. The chapel I'm after is in Haworth itself, next door to the baptist chapel at the north end of town, and was built in 1744. Having said that, it is strange that these records have been deposited but the ones I'm after (pre- and post-1837) have not.

@BumbleB:
I think I'm going to have to phone them, yes :)

My 2nd-great grandparents were both married here in 1874, and their children were also baptised here, according to research my late grandfather commissioned in the 1980's - unfortunately the researcher neglected to state where he found them!

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Re: West Lane Wesleyan, Haworth - records?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 October 13 20:49 BST (UK) »
Although this doesn't help the situation any.
Doing research in my local area, found same situation regarding Wesleyan records not being submitted might be in the chapel safe? (Inc my own family)
 Brian
Yewdall/Yewdell/Youdall -Yorkshire