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NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« on: Saturday 05 October 13 12:38 BST (UK) »
This gentleman arrived aboard the Randolph at Sydney on 20/08/1849 and was immediately granted a Ticket of Leave to work in the Bathurst District......this was cancelled on 25/07/1851 by the Carcoar Bench after he absented himself from the District.   And that is the last mention of him.
Hopefully somebody can help fill in the missing post-1851 details about his life.

He was born c1835 in Bath, Somerset, the son of John and Ann Luckman.

Thank you

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 October 13 18:50 BST (UK) »
Bathurst district 1851 = GOLDRUSH  ;D

Newspaper gives his name reversed - John Alexander LUCKMAN.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12928961

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 October 13 00:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Tony :)

He is Alexander LUCKMAN on the 1841 census with parents John and Ann and Alexander John on all available online records to 1851.

Other than the newspaper snippet I can find no trace of him however there are John LUCKMAN's in both Tasmania and Qld.  Co-incidentally the John LUCKMAN in Tasmania was born in 1835 however his birth registration is on the Tasmanian Index.

Possibly used an alias if he left the district.  Goldrush also in the Colony of Victoria.

Cheers
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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 October 13 01:20 BST (UK) »
and was  immediately granted a Ticket of Leave to work in the Bathurst District

I find this interesting and would be interested to learn more about such events from those who have more knowledge than me.

I have certainly read about convicts who were granted leave, pardons and freedoms very soon after arrival, but these were men whose special skills and professions were desperately needed in  the colonies-draughtsmen, instrument makers etc.

How was this granted to a 17 year old?

Sue
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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 October 13 01:32 BST (UK) »
Sue, he was one of the 'convict exiles' ;)

Convict transportation to New South Wales effectively ceased in 1842 but between 1849-50 exiles were transported. Exiles had served part of their sentence in a penitentiary in Britain and were granted a conditional pardon or ticket of leave on arrival in the Colony.

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 October 13 01:49 BST (UK) »
His TOL states he was 18 years of age. 
The handwritten comments are difficult to read.

Transferred to Carcoar 21 Jun 1850.
Letter ?required......
Cancelled 4 Apr 1851 for abscond from district.
Gov s**** ?no List Reqd.


His seven year sentence for larcency would have been completed on 12 Jul 1851.

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 October 13 02:01 BST (UK) »
HI

John Alexander Lackman ( may have changed name ?)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/87862823?searchTerm=lackman alexander&searchLimits=

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 October 13 02:07 BST (UK) »
Very speculative research....

Marriage in Qld - cert should list parents of bride and groom.  You can now purchase certificates online an immediately download AUD$20.
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
1860/C182
LUCKMANN   John   
CHATTERTON   Elisabeth Ann


There are frequent mentions of an Elisabeth/Elizabeth LUCKMAN in the Qld press .
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

No children recorded on Qld bdm.

Death
1890/C3526
LUCKMAN  Elizabeth   

There were also gold rushes in New Zealand and California and as I mentioned previously, he may have changed his name.

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Re: NSW: Alexander John LUCKMAN , Born 1835, Bath, Somerset
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 October 13 02:15 BST (UK) »
HI

John Alexander Lackman ( may have changed name ?)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/87862823?searchTerm=lackman alexander&searchLimits=

Muss


More than likely not the same person Muss  this guy in Trove if the same person got married and had children very late 1890's
DEWSTOWE/DUSTOW, WADE, REED, ROGERS, GARRETT, HAY, KERR, BAS-TED HUSBAND  COOKE/COOK, GOWER, JEFFREYS,DAVIES, OATES or OATS, , GREASLEY/GREASLY, BIRD, BOSWELL, WILLEY, WHEADON, PARKER, ABBOTT?(maybe not related), JONES, QUINN, SCOTT, ISBESTER or ISBISTER?, LLOYD, RICHARDS, WHETTALL HILL, MOON
Names come from Redruth, Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and possibly Ireland. And other parts of England.
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