William Reuban Henry Dodwell Plimmer

[Pinetree]

I found a newspaper report from July 1901 regarding the conviction of Reuban Henry Plimmer. It states he had been married for 3 years and had 2 children. The article says that he was the brother of the famous boxer who from an 1896 article I believe was Billy Plimmer and Reuban was his trainer/bottle man.  In 1901 Reuban's address is given as 89 High Street, Aston - labourer.

In December 1901 he is a private in 4th Royal Garrison Regiment in Aldershot - article about failing to pay maintenance for his wife Maria.

There are a few articles about Maria's antics in the Lichfield area in the early 1900s, seems she was quite a colourful character too.

I think Boxer Billy is in Sheffield too in 1911 and I also think it may be him with Bella in 1901 rather than Reuban (why would you give 2 sons born so close to each other such similar names - to confuse us genealogists no doubt 

Pinetree

From a tree online the William you have b.1869 was Billy the boxer and Isabella's mother's maiden name was Horton!

[jim1]

and Isabella's mother's maiden name was Horton!

Looks like the 1881 census is him based on that.
The marriage entry definitely says Bilhah & George Plimmer is a witness.She was living Wheeler St.

[plimmerian]

hi - wow - what a find!!!

Reuben does sound a most colourful character that I have ever stumbled across 

I tried researching the Reuban H J Dodwell this morning and his family in case that brought anything to light but sadly they all proved just as tricky to track down after the 1871 census, so I abandoned the idea - a daughter Ann Selina Dodwell appeared to change her name to Annie Beatrice (and her age) and looks like she  "ran off" with a William Kemp - got my self in knots and the father appears to have disappeared too!

thanks again for posting and any snippets on Reuben Henry Plimmer (or however he calls himself) most welcome! 

[plimmerian]

3 other possible off spring:

Maria Plimmer 1903 -1903 Lichfield, Staffordshire
Mary Ann Plimmer 1905 - 1905 Lichfield, Staffordshire
Eva Plimmer 1906 - ? Lichfield, Staffordshire

before Maria or Ann Maria Plimmer died aged 33 in Lichfield, Staffordshire in 1909

[plimmerian]

found an online tree that states Eva Plimmer became Eva Brimham

she married Thomas Boston in 1929 and died as Eva May Boston in 1979

find Robert Brimham married Maria Plimmer in York in 1908

1911 finds Brimham clan at 24 George Lane, Lichfield

phew! 

[cath151]

1901
RG13/2884  11/13 transcribed Plumber

89 High Street Aston Manor

Ann Dawes  head  wid  61                     Sutton Coldfield
John Millward boarder  wid  59  Mechanical Engineer   Stourbridge
Reuben Plumber  boarder  mar 32  Reservist   Aston
Maria     "                "        mar 23                 Burton on Trent

There are army records for a Reuben Plimmer born 1868 Birmingham  on FindMyPast but the mothers initial for nok is not I so possibly not him.

Cathy

[jim1]

1901 Reuben living Aston charged with aggravated assault against his wife living Lichfield with her mother. She said he'd "ill-used her" several times before.Reuben failed to appear.
1909 describing himself as a commission agent tried at Warwick Assizes for uttering counterfeit 5s. pieces.
Maria had a few run-ins as well.
Drunkeness, sleeping rough ,absconding from the workhouse & 2 counts of improper conduct.
Here's an interesting census entry from 1891:
RG12; Piece: 2376; Folio: 132; Page: 44
Abebetar Plimmer 40/M/Wolverhampton/Beer stores manageress ( King's Arms Gt. Colmore St. )
George Plimmer 16/Aston
John Plimmer 14/Aston

[jim1]

Hello Cathy
Is her initial B as she went by the name Bella.

[cath151]

No sorry looks like E
Cathy