John Shaw, Yorkshire

[rosie99]

It looks as though William has remarried 

1871  Station Street, Swinton
William Shaw age 54 Married occ Grocer bn Swinton
Jane Shaw age 54 Wife bn Belton, Lincolnshire
Edward Shaw age 22 Fireman at Colliery bn Wales
Jane Shaw age 18 Servant bn London, Middlesex
RG9 /4712 f9 p12

[rosie99]

There is a Jane Jenkinson bn Belton, Lincolnshire in 1861 Swinton   RG9/3511 f65 p18
A Widow occ Inn Keeper at The Miners Arms

Marriage September qtr 1863 
Bullmore    William       
Jenkinson    Jane       
Montgomery    Catherine       
SHAW    William       
Rotherham    9c   550   

[Ladyhawk]

There is a Jane Jenkinson bn Belton, Lincolnshire in 1861 Swinton   RG9/3511 f65 p18
A Widow occ Inn Keeper at The Miners Arms

Marriage September qtr 1863 
Bullmore    William       
Jenkinson    Jane       
Montgomery    Catherine       
SHAW    William       
Rotherham    9c   550

Just for Info. this looks to be Jane on 1841/1851 census with her husband John

HO107; P 1328; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Rawmarsh E D 19; F 59; P 8
John JENKINSON 25 Ag Lab.
Jane 20
William 6mths

1851 HO107; Piece: 2344; Folio: 400; Page: 19
Jane Jenkinson wife age 33 Belton Lincolnshire
husband John occ. Ag Lab. & children William, Hannah & Edward

possible marriage entry
Rotherham Dec 1839
John JINKINSON
Name on same page
Jane RICHARDSON

Interestingly there’s a Sarah SHAW on the same page (could this be William's sister) 

There's a death entry for a
John JENKINSON  Jun 1860 Rotherham

I wonder if John William Shaw born St Asaph 1847 was William & Ann's first child and
did they marry in Wales or England?

There's this entry

Jun 1839 Rotherham
William SHAW
Names on same page
Anne WILCOCKS
Ann LINDLEY

but difficult to say without confirmation from a  b/c  of one of their children if this might be their marriage

[Chrisvp]

Hi guys,
You certainly have been busy, I just got home from work and more info. Coming my way!
I believe I saw a reference to William Shaw having a sister named Sarah, if I can connect that information it is one step closer to finding out if John Shaw is indeed the father of William. Have to start cooking supper for the wife but will be back online shortly. I am sure I saw that information on familysearch and GENUKI: Wath Upon Dearne. You know I may be addicted to genealogy!
cheers,
Chrisvp

[Chrisvp]

Hello everyone,
 Here is a list of baptisms in Swinton starting in 1810.


29 07 1810   20 06 1810   Edmond   SHAW   Thomas   Mary   Swinton   Son       Thomas, son of Edward; Mary, daughter of Edmond Whitehead
23 09 1810   29 09 1810   Richard   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Son       James, son of Richard, a Labourer; Ann, daughter of William Watson
28 07 1811   02 03 1811   George Littlewood   SHAW   Thomas   Mary   Swinton   Son   Carpenter   Thomas, son of Edward, a Carpenter; Mary, daughter of Edmond Whitehead
09 06 1812   09 05 1812   Dina   SHAW   William   Nelly   Swinton   Daughter       William, son of William; Nelly, daughter of John Senior
18 04 1813   27 03 1813   Maria   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Daughter       James, son of Richard, a Labourer; Ann, daughter of William Watson
22 05 1814   28 04 1814   Charles   SHAW   William   Nelly   Swinton   Son       William, son of William; Nelly, daughter of John Sawer or Sawyer, a Collier
16 10 1814   18 05 1814   Eliza   SHAW   John   Christiana   Swinton   Daughter       John, son of John, a Labourer; Christiana, daughter of Jonathan Bartholomew
01 10 1815       Sarah   SHAW   John   Elizabeth   Swinton   Daughter   Tailor
18 12 1815       Martin   SHAW   John   Christiana   Swinton   Son   Cordwainer
09 06 1816       William   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Son   Labourer
05 01 1817       Ann   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer
06 12 1818       George   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Son   Labourer
21 02 1819       Emma   SHAW   John   Christiana   Swinton   Daughter   Cordwainer
09 03 1819       Charles   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Son   Labourer
20 02 1820   Charles   SHAW   George   Elizabeth   Swinton   Son   Joiner

27 08 1820   Harriet   SHAW   John   Mary   Swinton   Daughter   BlackSmith

22 04 1821   Joshua   SHAW   William   Martha   Swinton   Son   Joiner

06 05 1821   George   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Son   Labourer

24 06 1821   Mark   SHAW   John   Christiana   Swinton   Son   Cordwainer

08 09 1822   Harriet   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer

29 12 1822   Elizabeth   SHAW   John   Elizabeth   Swinton Common   Daughter   Tailor
29 12 1822   William   SHAW   John   Elizabeth   Swinton Common   Son   Tailor

06 04 1823   Harriet   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer

20 05 1823   Hannah   SHAW   Thomas   Sarah   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer

11 04 1824   George   SHAW   William   Ann   Swinton   Son   Joiner

25 04 1824   Martha   SHAW   George   Hannah   Swinton   Daughter   Potter

19 09 1824   Benjamin   SHAW   John   Christiana   Swinton   Son   Cordwainer

02 01 1825   Seth   SHAW   Joshua   Elizabeth   Swinton   Son   Joiner

15 05 1825   Alfred   SHAW   William   Ann   Swinton   Son   Joiner

03 07 1825   Henry   SHAW   John   Elizabeth   Swinton   Son   Tailor

23 10 1825   Ann   SHAW   Thomas   Elizabeth   Swinton   Daughter   Potter

05 02 1826   Joseph   SHAW   George   Hannah   Swinton   Son   Potter

25 06 1826   Charlotte   SHAW   Thomas   Sarah   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer
25 06 1826   Catharine   SHAW   Thomas   Sarah   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer
25 06 1826   Mary   SHAW   Thomas   Sarah   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer

29 10 1826   Alfred   SHAW   James   Ann   Swinton   Son   Labourer
25 12 1826   John   SHAW   William   Ann   Swinton   Son   Joiner
25 12 1826   Ann   SHAW   Thomas   Mary   Swinton   Daughter   Carpenter
01 04 1827   Enoch   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Son   Labourer
20 05 1827   Grace   SHAW   Joshua   Elizabeth   Swinton   Daughter   WheelWright
27 07 1828   Henry   SHAW   William   Ann   Swinton   Son   Carpenter
07 12 1828   Alfred   SHAW   George   Hannah   Swinton   Son   Potter
29 01 1829   Luke   SHAW   Thomas   Sarah   Swinton   Son   Potter
05 07 1829   Adelina   SHAW   William   Helen   Swinton   Daughter   Labourer
20 09 1829   Joshua   SHAW   Joshua   Elizabeth   Swinton   Son   Carpenter

[rosie99]

To be really sure that you are researching the right family and to establish the maiden name of Ann you really need the certificates.  Whilst we have found Williams second marriage and that would give his fathers name the birth certificate of one of his children is the best route to take then once you know the mothers maiden anme you can get the right marriage cert giving details of both William & Ann's father.

I can see a William born c1821 in Swinton in 1841 but the details do not tie in with a similar entry on your baptism list  - you really need a certificate or you could be following the wrong family

Rosie

[Chrisvp]

Hi Rosie,
Yes I know that this could be the wrong line. I try to get as much information as possible before ordering a certificate. Unfortunately I have followed wrong lines before and ordered the wrong peoples birth records. But in this case it looks like the thing to do.
Regards,
Chris

[rosie99]

I am looking at a possible marriage in London 1846 for a William Shaw with a father John whose occupation ties in with the one on your christenings list 
8 July 1846 Pimlico
William occupation Coachman father John occ Tailor
Ann Harries father Edward Harries occ Farmer

Rosie