John Shaw, Yorkshire

[rosie99]

Thanks for the marriage, that was one spelling I didn't try and I didn't try familysearch as I would normally   

Trying to do dinner at the same time 

Rosie

[Ladyhawk]

1851  HO107; Piece: 2506; Folio: 312; Page: 43
Duckspool
William Shaw 30 Swinton Yorkshire occ coachman
Anne 29 welshpool montgomeryshire
JOHN WILLIaM 3 ST Asaph Flintshire
Edward 2
Anne Eliza 4 MTHS
Elizabeth JONES 12

[Chrisvp]

Dinner! It is only breakfast here!
This is beginning to become a little convoluted. I am pretty sure with the records I have that Bens parents were John William Shaw and Mary Shepard and that John Williams father was William.
When I figure out how to unravel IOS7 and find my references all will be clear like mud.
I have just found a website GENUKI: Wath upon Dearne with a huge amount of information on the Shaws in Yorkshire just have to figure out who belongs to who!
Regards,
Chrisvp

[Chrisvp]

Thanks Ladyhawk,
I believe that is one of my references that ios7 has misplaced on my iPad.
 

[rosie99]

It certainly looks as though you have the correct parents for Ben 

1851  HO107; Piece: 2506; Folio: 312; Page: 43
Duckspool
William Shaw 30 Swinton Yorkshire occ coachman
Anne 29 welshpool montgomeryshire
JOHN WILLIaM 3 ST Asaph Flintshire
Edward 2
Anne Eliza 4 MTHS
Elizabeth JONES 12

Born in Wales again 
He was christened at St Asaph 10 September 1847, father was a coachman at Pengwern

So now we need Williams marriage to Anne, that should confirm his fathers name.   

[Ladyhawk]

Here they are 1861


1861 RG 9; Piece: 43; Folio: 100; Page: 31
Bell Yard St George London
William Shaw Widow 45 Swinton Yorkshire Coachman
JOHN Shaw 13 Flintshire
Edward 12
Anne 9
Jane 7 London Middx
Louisa 6 ‘’

[rosie99]

Nice one Ladyhawk 

Louisa was born 3 December 1855 christened 27 January 1856 at St George Hanover Sq.

There are two birth registrations that could be her
Sept qtr 1855 
Shaw  Louisa
St.Geo.H.Sq    1a   208

March qtr 1856 
SHAW  Louisa   
St Geo H Sq    1a   191


Jane was born 2nd May 1853 

[Ladyhawk]

Great Rosie - obtaining a birth certificate of one of the children would give mother's maiden name
and would make it easier to find William & Ann's marriage

possibly William's 1822 christening Swinton parents John & Elizabeth Shaw
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5VS-J9Z

Elizabeth same christening date/place & parents names
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JW3N-52Q

Sarah 1815
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5VS-N2Q

there's also one for 1816 parents James & Ann Shaw
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NB4S-H84

There are a number christenings on familysearch for Welshpool Montgomeryshire c1820 with first name Ann - but which one 

I haven't come across a William Shaw born c 1822 occ Coachman on 1841 c 

[Chrisvp]

Thanks!
Some of the info I have seen and some is new. It is a beginning, finding Ann has been a chore.
I cannot find William on the 1841 either, but he was a coachmen so maybe he was on the road and missed the census? More Shaws in Yorkshire than you can shake a stick at, figuring out who belongs to who is the hard part. I have got to go to work now. Hope to respond more later.
Cheers,
Chrisvp