John Shaw, Yorkshire

[Chrisvp]

I am doing my wife's genealogy and have hit a brick wall. Thus far I have:
Ben Albert Shaw b. 1889 I believe in Swinton.
John William Shaw b. 1846 Wales married to Mary Shepard.
William Shaw b.1822 Swinton married to Ann.
Now here is where I can't make a firm connection, I believe Williams father was a John Shaw and his mother Elizabeth just can't prove it and I did find a mention somewhere about Johns lineage,
"John son of George son of Jarvis son of William" unfortunately since I downloaded IOS7 I can't find any of my references!!!!

Any help or hints would be much appreciated. I believe that the Shaw Familiy goes back many generations in the Swinton area, just have to find those direct links.
Regards,
Chrisvp

[jacquelineve]

  Have you found Wlm(1822) in 1841 census, was he still with parents or living near.

  His marriage cert will give fathers name.

Jackie

[Ladyhawk]

I am doing my wife's genealogy and have hit a brick wall. Thus far I have:

Ben Albert Shaw b. 1889 I believe in Swinton.

John William Shaw b. 1846 Wales married to Mary Shepard.

Just to establish John William Shaw with his family on the censuses

1901 census  mother Mary has remarried
RG13; Piece: 4402; Folio: 20; Page: 31
Shaw children living with George & Mary SMITH
John W 19, Horace 18, Percy 14, BEN A 12, Joe C 8 & Mary L SHAW 5

1891 RG12; Piece: 3855; Folio: 112; Page: 20
John Wm Shaw 45 North NK, Wales occ Coal miner
Mary 36
George E 16
Laura 12
John W 9
Horace 7
Percy 3
Ben Albert 1

1881 RG11; Piece: 4683; Folio: 15; Page: 23
74 Albert St Rotherham
John William Shaw 30 Wales Coal miner
Mary 28 Epworth Yorkshire
Harriet Ann 9
George Edward 6
Annie Jane Eliz. 4
Laura 2

1871 RG10; Piece: 4510; Folio: 140; Page: 28
John William Shaw 25 Swinton
Mary 18 Epworth

[Ladyhawk]

for info. in case you don't have this

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Ben Albert Shaw
Birth Date:   23 Oct 1889
Birth Location:   Swinton, Yorkshire, England
Relative:   Mrs Mary Shaw (original reads surname SMITH)
Regiment Number:   27681

Ben Albert Shaw
Birth Year:   abt 1890
Death Age:   68
Death Date:   22 May 1958
Death Location:   Penticton
Registration number:   1958-09-006266
BCA Number:   B13237
GSU Number:   2033178

Ben Albert Shaw
Barbara Maxwell
Marriage Date:   18 Jul 1923
Marriage Location:   Merritt
Registration number:   1923-09-264420
BCA Number:   B13746
GSU Number:   2074316

Ben Albert Shaw
Age:   22
Date of Arrival:   2 Dec 1911
Vessel:   Megantic
Port of Arrival:   Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure:   Liverpool, England

Ben Albert Shaw
Birth Date:   22 Dec 1888
Christening Date:   3 Jan 1889
Christening Place:   Swinton (near Rotherham), Yorkshire, England
Age at Christening:   0
Mother's Name:   Harriet Ann Shaw

[rosie99]

Just trying to track back so I can see who and where William is 

I can see John W & Mary in census back to 1881 and possibly 1871 where he is in Hunslet and states he was born Swinton.  Thanks Ladyhawk they are the ones I found.

Where is he in 1861 and 1851 

I can't see a John W Shaw marriage to a Mary Shepard either.

Rosie

[Ladyhawk]

Just trying to track back so I can see who and where William is 

Where is he in 1861 and 1851 

There’s a John Shaw born 1847 Swinton parents John & Ann on 1851 census 
HO107; Piece: 2345; Folio: 132; Page: 25

1861c RG 9; Piece: 3511; Folio: 34; Page: 5
 looks as if he's named William Shaw b1845 Wath Yorkshire

Oops there's also a William on the 1851 census 

[Chrisvp]

Thanks everyone,
On Ben Alberts marriage certificate he has his mother down as Mary Shepherd, spelled differently in various documents. I can't find William on the 1841 census but that doesn't mean he is not there,
I have at times found people on it who I swear I couldn't find before!
Regards,
Chrisvp

[Chrisvp]

Hi everyone,
Name:    John William Shaw
Birth Date:    1847
Birthplace:   
Age:    23
Spouse's Name:   Mary Sheppard
Spouse's Birth Date:    1853
Spouse's Birthplace:   
Spouse's Age:    17
Event Date:    22 May 1870
Event Place:    Mexborough, York, England
Father's Name:   William Shaw
Mother's Name:   
Spouse's Father's Name:   George Sheppard
Spouse's Mother's Name:   
Race:   
Marital Status:   
Previous Wife's Name:   
Spouse's Race:   
Spouse's Marital Status:   
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:   
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:   M13534-6
System Origin:    England-VR
GS Film number:   1545730
Reference ID:    2:3DXJ16

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks everyone,
On Ben Alberts marriage certificate he has his mother down as Mary Shepherd, spelled differently in various documents.

On the 1891 census he's noted as son of John & Mary but the baptism gives his mother as Harriet Ann whose the daughter of John & Mary 

Ben Albert Shaw
Birth Date:   22 Dec 1888
Christening Date:   3 Jan 1889
Christening Place:   Swinton (near Rotherham), Yorkshire, England
Mother's Name:   Harriet Ann Shaw

Percy Shaw
Birth Date:   13 May 1887
Christening Date:   31 Jul 1887
Christening Place:   Swinton (near Rotherham), Yorkshire, England
Father's Name:   John William Shaw
Mother's Name:   Mary

Laura Shaw
Birth Date:   23 Feb 1879
Christening Date:   13 Apr 1879
Christening Place:   Swinton (near Rotherham), Yorkshire, England
Father's Name:   John William Shaw
Mother's Name:   Mary