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Re: Why are people from __ called ___?
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 28 September 13 18:06 BST (UK) »
Hello everybody

First of all, thanks so much for your replies so far. Very promising! I'll try and reply to as many as possible individually ...

Jill x

(PS I'm from Leeds - hence a Leodensian, or a Loiner, probably both deriving from the old name for the area around Leeds: Leodis or Loidis. Other theories are available ...)

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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 September 13 19:06 BST (UK) »
Leicester = 'Leicestrians' and/or  'Ligorians'( river Soars old name ) and /or Woolybacks"'

The Roman city of Ratae Coritanorum was founded in AD 50 as a military settlement upon the Fosse Way Roman road. The city was named after the Corieltauvi, the Celtic tribe that dwelt in the area before the Romans arrived.

Ratae Coritanorum grew into an important trading and military centre and one of the largest towns in Roman Britain. The remains of the baths of Roman Leicester can be seen at the Jewry Wall, and other Roman artefacts are displayed in the Jewry Wall museum adjacent to the site.

The Roman town was largely abandoned when the Romans left Britain in the 5th century, but was later re-settled by Saxons. In the 9th century, Leicester was captured by the Danes (Vikings) and became one of the five boroughs (fortified towns) of Danelaw, although this position was short lived. The Saxon Bishop of Leicester fled to Dorchester-on-Thames and Leicester was not to become a bishopric again until the 20th century.

It is believed the name "Leicester" is derived from the words castra (camp) of the Ligore, meaning dwellers on the 'River Legro' (an early name for the River Soar). In the early 10th century it was recorded as Ligeraceaster = "the town of the Ligor people". The Domesday book later recorded it as Ledecestre.

I have also heard people from Leicester called "Woolybacks" which comes from the very rich wool merchants of the medival times who were given the licenses to sell wool by the King a system of trade and its taxation in the 'Staple' markets . The main industry in Leicester in the Middle Ages was making wool, sold as raw fllece,  woven into cloth. Then it was fulled( cleaned and thickened by being pounded in a mixture of water and clay). The wool was pounded by wooden hammers, which were worked by watermills. After the wool dried it was dyed.

Although a  name also later used for a  person( Liverpublian) who worked in Liverpool docks in the 18th Century: Unloading ships, the dockers would carry the woollen bales on their backs leaving traces of wool on their clothing.
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
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Re: Why are people from __ called ___?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 28 September 13 19:48 BST (UK) »
Surely "woollybacks" can be used by any urban dweller to refer to rural naifs?
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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 28 September 13 19:56 BST (UK) »
A friend from Sunderland claimed they were known as "Monkey Hangers", because during the Napoleonic wars there was a shipwreck and a monkey washed ashore.  Not knowing what it was they assumed it was a French spy & hanged it!

H'angus the monkey was the first elected mayor of Hartlepool!
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« Reply #31 on: Sunday 29 September 13 12:15 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for that information Iluleah as some of my ancestors were from Leicester it is very useful and interesting. I have heard woollybacks and Tigers bv that is all.

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« Reply #32 on: Sunday 29 September 13 13:14 BST (UK) »
liverpool  =  liverpudlians  = scousers

I always thought the word scouse came from the type of stew the sailors ate.
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday 29 September 13 13:18 BST (UK) »
As did I Rena , at least that is what I was told by a Scouser.

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« Reply #34 on: Sunday 29 September 13 13:22 BST (UK) »
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Thankyou for that information Iluleah as some of my ancestors were from Leicester it is very useful and interesting. I have heard woollybacks and Tigers bv that is all.

Tigers is because of the 'Tigers Rugby Club' and of course there is the 'Foxes' too which people think is because of Leicester City Football Club, which are the Foxes, but they took the name as Leicestershire was the 'home' of Fox hunting and the many hunts back in the day, such as the famous 'Quorn Hunt' which is a village just off the A46 on route to Melton Mowbray http://www.leics.gov.uk/foxhunting

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Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Why are people from __ called ___?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 29 September 13 13:23 BST (UK) »
liverpool  =  liverpudlians  = scousers

I always thought the word scouse came from the type of stew the sailors ate.

Because poor Liverpool people often ate this cheap mariner's stew?
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