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Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« on: Tuesday 24 September 13 09:59 BST (UK) »
Hello
I would be grateful if anyone could spare a moment to look up a marriage for me.

Groom: Albert John ("Hampshire?") BOOKER
Bride: Elsie M WALDER
Married: Apr-Jun 1936 (Midhurst 2b 1190)

I would very much like to confirm 1) their age / dates of birth and 2) their father's names and 3) (if poss) their middle names.

I am completely stuck as the birth records for Elsie on freebmd do not tie in with other suggestions and the one birth record that matches the area/date appears to tie in to a death record the following year.

I am searching for ancestors of Rosemary (b.to a Walder mother) and I believe these two people to be correct parents.
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Researching:  BARTER, MERRYFIELD/MERRIFIELD & TUFFEN/TUFFIN (all Compton Abbas in Dorset) -  ROSE (Alverstoke in Hampshire) - BISHOP (St Pancras, Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire) - JENNER (Standish in Gloucestershire) - PREWETT (East Dorset, West Hampshire, Wiltshire) - TUCK (Dorset/Hampshire Border) - BRAIN (Westbury on Severn / Forest of Dean) - TRIGGS, BADCOCK, BARNES, RHODDA (all Penzance and West Cornwall).
Look up offer: Bournemouth District Records.

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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 10:24 BST (UK) »
You will probably need to purchase the birth certificate to confirm if you have the correct parents

I don't think the marriage certificate is available to view on line

If the persons are known to be living you should remove their full names

There are two earlier  births Midhurst Sussex 1937 (male) & 1941 (female) both
with mmn WALDER

There are these death entries in Sussex

Albert J Booker age 55 (Born c 1908)
Jun 1963
Registration District:   Midhurst Sussex
Volume:   5h Page:   658

Elsie Mabel Booker age 77
Birth Date:   10 Jul 1910
Date of Registration:   Sep 1987   Chichester   Sussex
Volume: 18 Page: 1543

This might be her birth entry (FreeBMD)

WALDER    Elsie M   Sep qtr. 1910 Guildford    2a   85

and possibly her baptism

Elsie Mebel Walder
Baptism Date:   21 Aug 1910
Archive Provided Parish:   Worplesdon, St Mary
Parish as it Appears:   Worplesdon
Father   George Albert Walder occ Foreman Mother Emma Walder
Reference Number:   WOR/4/3

George Albert Walder
Age at enlistment: 30 (1885)
Residence:   Sandy Lane, Rogate Sussex
Document Year:   1915
Regiment Name:   Royal Regiment of Artillery (RH and RFA)
Number of images:   30

marriage entry Midhurst Sep 1906
George Albert WALDER
Emma COLLYER

1911 census free to view on anc*y for a limited time


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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 10:53 BST (UK) »


There are these death entries in Sussex

Albert J Booker age 55 (Born c 1908)
Jun 1963
Registration District:   Midhurst Sussex
Volume:   5h Page:   658

Elsie Mabel Booker age 77
Birth Date:   10 Jul 1910
Date of Registration:   Sep 1987   Chichester   Sussex
Volume: 18 Page: 1543









1911 census free to view on anc*y for a limited time

The death reg for Albert J fits with birth reg of Albert John Hampshire Booker
birth reg Sept qtr 1907 Midhurst 2b 370
He is Albert Hampshire Booker in 1911

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 11:07 BST (UK) »

The death reg for Albert J fits with birth reg of Albert John Hampshire Booker
birth reg Sept qtr 1907 Midhurst 2b 370

He is Albert Hampshire Booker in 1911



Can’t give details of 1911 census but I wonder if these are Albert's parents  ???

Dec 1911 E Preston (Sussex)
Dora BOOKER
Name on same page
Albert J HAMPSHIRE

other male & female name on same page are
Thomas A Glason
Emily G Matthews

and Dora on 1901 census with her parents

RG13; Piece: 972; Folio: 165; Page: 10.
Rueben Booker 44
Mary J 40
Alfred 19
William 15
DORA 12 Lynch, Sussex
Emily 10
Mary N 7
Edwin George 3

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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 14:00 BST (UK) »
Wow thank you for your help, it certainly gives me a starting place.  I really was stuck with no names to search for.

I think Dora (his possible mother) may have been Agns Dora Booker.. but it doesn't look like she was married.

I may come back to you... :)
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Researching:  BARTER, MERRYFIELD/MERRIFIELD & TUFFEN/TUFFIN (all Compton Abbas in Dorset) -  ROSE (Alverstoke in Hampshire) - BISHOP (St Pancras, Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire) - JENNER (Standish in Gloucestershire) - PREWETT (East Dorset, West Hampshire, Wiltshire) - TUCK (Dorset/Hampshire Border) - BRAIN (Westbury on Severn / Forest of Dean) - TRIGGS, BADCOCK, BARNES, RHODDA (all Penzance and West Cornwall).
Look up offer: Bournemouth District Records.

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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 17:17 BST (UK) »

I think Dora (his possible mother) may have been Agns Dora Booker.. but it doesn't look like she was married.

I may come back to you... :)


There is an Agnes Dora Booker born in c1884 Southampton her parents are Charles & Susan (1891c) in 1901 she's just Dora Booker and a servant, I think this Agnes Dora Booker
can be ruled out , she died 1944

Agnes Dora Booker spinster of Arrow Lawn Eardisland Leominster died
2 June 1944 Admin to Henry Hardy Booker retired civil servant
(if you look at the 1891 census you will see that Henry Hardy is her brother)

Henry Hardy Booker 37 Salisbury Rd Highfield Southampton died 4 June 1954
Probate to Lloyds Bank

You would need to check Albert Hampshire Booker's birth certificate (birth reg. given by Suz) to be certain of his mother's name  and if she wasn't married hopefully his father's name might be mentioned - you know his grandparents are named Rueben & Mary

That would then confirm if the Dec 1911 marriage might be the same couple (ie Albert Hampshire Booker's parents)
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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 18:35 BST (UK) »
the 1911c says the head and wife had 8 children born to marriage.
I'm thinking that an older son may have been Albert j h's father and that Albert was not living with grandparents but visiting.
This might explain why Dora is single not married... She may not be his mother but an aunt.
Although "Hampshire" seems an unusual name unless it indicates his father. ?!?
I think I need the birth certificate for Albert to be sure.
thanks for the records and advice... Much appreciated x
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Researching:  BARTER, MERRYFIELD/MERRIFIELD & TUFFEN/TUFFIN (all Compton Abbas in Dorset) -  ROSE (Alverstoke in Hampshire) - BISHOP (St Pancras, Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire) - JENNER (Standish in Gloucestershire) - PREWETT (East Dorset, West Hampshire, Wiltshire) - TUCK (Dorset/Hampshire Border) - BRAIN (Westbury on Severn / Forest of Dean) - TRIGGS, BADCOCK, BARNES, RHODDA (all Penzance and West Cornwall).
Look up offer: Bournemouth District Records.

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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 18:44 BST (UK) »
I too think you need the birth cert to be certain - but be prepared - very often an illegit child is gived his father's name as a middle name

You could possibly be looking for a father with the name (Albert or john) Hampshire -there are a couple in the area!!!!

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Request for info: Elsie M WALDER / Albert J BOOKER, Midhurst area Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 May 14 01:31 BST (UK) »
Hi, I think that the Elsie Booker that is mentioned here is my grandmother. I never knew her maiden name or the name of my grandfather. My granddad died just after I was born.