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Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« on: Thursday 23 August 12 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Carmel,

Was wondering if you would be able to help me with some information?
My GG grandparents lived in the Ballarat area
I know they lost a baby girl, i believe she was buried at a cemetery near Daisyhill??
She was born at Amherst, and her name was Alice Elizabeth McIntosh she died aged 6wks 1856
My gg grandfather Alexander died in Australia in 1871, the rest of the family had returned to Scotland
 by then so he would have been alone I cant seem to find anything about his death
but cant help wondering if he would have been buried near his daughter
Any information you can help me with would be appreciated

Thankyou
Paula

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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 September 13 14:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Paula,

I am sorry I have just seen your post on the end of an old thread and have just split it off.

Hope someone might have some ideas for you to try.

Regards

Sarah :)
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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 September 13 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hi

Could you let us know Alexander's date of birth, plus his parents names also wife's names.

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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 September 13 23:35 BST (UK) »
Is his death one of these?


 MCINTOSH Alexander
 Father Unknown
 Mother:-
Age 44
Birth Place SCOT
Year 1871
Reg 375

MCINTOSH Alexander
Father John
Mother Elizabeth STEWART
Age 65
Birth Place INVE
Year 1871
Reg 637

The details on the death certificate will tell you where he is buried.
 An uncertified image can be downloaded to your computer immediately upon payment of about  Aus. $20.00.  You will need the registration number which is given above on the index entry.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 September 13 23:39 BST (UK) »
Two Alexander McINTOSH deaths in Victoria in 1871.

Death
McINTOSH Alexander
Parents unknown 
1871 44 years  Born Scotland Reg#375

McINTOSH Alexander
Father John  Mother Elizabeth STEWART
1871 65 years  Born Inverness  Reg#637

and this also but for which Alexander?  Inquests were held as a matter of routine for those who died in public institutions.  I only mention this as there was a gaol and asylum at Beechworth.  Of course inquests were held into deaths for other reasons as well.  Beechworth was also a gold mining area.  One of my ancestors was a government surveyor and mining registrar in the area.

Inquest Index
McINTOSH Alexander
Beechworth  1871  Ref#37
Cause Pneumonia

His place of burial would be detailed on his death certificate which you can purchase [$AUD20] online and immediately download.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

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http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvsac/Amherst.htm

Cass asked his wife's name.

Birth
McINTOSH Alice Elizabeth
Father Alexander  Mother Sarah NICHOLSON
Amherst  1856  Reg#5656

Death
McINTOSH Alice Elizabeth
Father Alexander  Mother Sarah
1856   6 Weeks  Born Amherst  Reg#2856

Gold was first discovered in 1848 at Daisy Hill near the area which is now Amherst Cemetery.  You can google for info.  Daisy Hill is not near Ballarat. 
http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/44620/Amherst.pdf 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst,_Victoria

Cheers
Cando

Edit...Oops apologies Sue....I will leave the deaths as I have added a bit more.
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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 September 13 23:43 BST (UK) »
This is the death for the child.

As I stated above, the death certificate will tell you where she was buried

MCINTOSH Alice Elizabeth
Father Alexander
Mother Sarah
Age 6W
Birth Place AMH
Year 1856
Reg 2856

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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 September 13 23:50 BST (UK) »
Death
McINTOSH Alexander
Father John  Mother Elizabeth STEWART
1871 65 years  Born Inverness  Reg#637

There is a one page 'file' on PROV Wills and Admons, for Alexander who died 29 Dec 1871.  He was described as late of Breakish, Isle of Skye, Inverness, a Mariner.  Administration to a John McINTOSH of Maffra, Gippsland in Jul 1874 but the administration 'has never been issued'.
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

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Edit Another resource states he died 29 Dec 1870, Maffra so a death would be be registered 1871.
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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 00:11 BST (UK) »
Perhaps this is the source of your information however his year of birth is stated as 1822 so his age at death is certainly inaccurate.

Extracts from "The Life & Adventures of James McIntosh the Legless Cyclist" ( Son of Alexander McIntosh )

"I was born a sailor, for my father was a sailor, and so was my mother. My Fathers name was Alexander McIntosh, he was a native of Dundee and was born in Butterburn. He went to sea when a boy and worked his way from the forecastle to the cabin by his own abilities and perseverance"

"He was a captain of several good ships, and my mother used to sail along with him. I had a brother and sister older than myself born at sea"

"Before my birth my father commanded the ship Mermaid of London, Gold had been discovered in Australia, and all the world was smitten with the "gold fever" and thousands were rushing to the diggings from all quarters. Fleets of vessels, loaded with merchandise and emigrants sailed for Melbourne and as soon as they anchored in the bay they were deserted by their crews, and the sailors ran off to the diggings to try their luck, and left their vessels to rot in the harbour. My father being deserted by his crew, resolved to try his fortune at the gold diggings too, so he went up the country with his wife and family, and there I first saw the light of this world ( Amehurst, County of Talbot, Victoria, Australia ). For a long time my father was very successful. He began by making tents for the diggers, and that turned out a very lucrative business, and having saved some money he bought a claim, and worked it with fair success for a considerable time. Latterly, however, "luck" deserted him, and after struggling against bad fortune, and loosing any little money he had realised, he abandoned the diggings and returned to Melbourne. Sir George Hothan was the was then Governor of Melbourne and he owned a fine yacht, n board of which my father obtained a situation as Chief Officer, at a salary of about 15 pounds a month. We were very well off in the colonies but my mother grew home sick, and longed to see her native country again. I had a sister who died out there and she was buried at a place called Daisy Hill. It was in the year 1867 that my mother with her children embarked for home , leaving my father behind."

"My father died and left me mother a widow"


The author's birth
McINTOSH James Haddow
Father Alexander  Mother Sarah NICHOLSON
Amherst  1857  Reg#7133

There are some very poorly researched trees online and none of them mention Alexander's parents names nor are there any certificates attached.

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Re: Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 01:15 BST (UK) »
You may find this site of interest with information about Talbot's history as well as current information.
http://www.talbottourism.org/home/history.htm

There is also a couple of photos of the graveyard here:
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/centgoldfields/daisyhill.htm

Interesting that Alexander made his living by supplying tents to the miners.  It was probably more profitable in many cases to provide services than to dig for gold.  My 4g grandfather made a good living by opening a pub in the goldfields.

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