Daisyhill Ballarat Cemetery - Alice Elizabeth McIntosh

[sinebeg]

My gg grandfather Alexander died in Australia in 1871, the rest of the family had returned to Scotland

Can I ask why you believe Alexander died in 1871? ie. What is the source of this information?

The Alexanders discussed so far:
1. Alexander with the will d.1871: He died in Breakish, Isle of Skye and had previously lived in Maffra - not the other way around. His was married twice - Catherine Robertson 1844 and Christina Matheson 1855 both in Strath, Skye. At least 2 of his sons remained in Victoria when he returned to Skye: John (1848-1877) and Thomas Ord (1851-1922). His daughter Mary/Marian returned to Skye with him as did his second wife Christina. Alexander's parents were Archibald McIntosh and Ann McEachan. Archibald was also in Maffra and died there in 1869 as were a couple of his sisters.

2. Alexander d.1871 son of John McIntosh and Elizabeth Stewart lived at Ascot, Victoria and was married to Jean McIntosh, daughter of John McIntosh and Catherine McDonald. They were both from Urquhart, Invernessshire and married there in 1828. Both died in 1871 - Alexander in March and Jean a month later and are buried together in Coghills Creek Cemetery.

3. The Alexander who died with parents unknown in 1871 died at Beechworth Gaol - the inquest gives his cause of death as pneumonia and pericarditis and notes that he appeared to have been ill for some time when he was admitted under warrant on 5th January. The only familial information given is that he was born in Scotland, aged 44 years and had no friends in the colony. Date of death 10th January - the inquest was held the same day. No burial information is given but Beechworth cemetery would be the best bet unless there was a burial ground attached to the gaol?
VPRS 515 - Prisoners' Personal Descriptions - may have more information.

Jay

[Aggielil]

I am new to this site but after reading all of the posts, I think I have found a gold mine.  My GGGrandparent's names were Alexander McINTOSH and Sarah NICHOLSON McINTOSH.  James "Toshie" McINTOSH was my GGrandmother's brother.  I read the posts and believe I have gotten some good information off of them.  I know that Sarah went back to Scotland after being homesick and that Alexander had passed away in Austrailia.  As for the baby that passed away, she could have been one of more because I know that my GGrandparents, Agnes and Alexander Gray, lost a child in the early 1890s and when my Grandmother was born she was given her name.  I'm sorry that I don't know what Alexander's parents names were.  I would tend to believe that they are listed here by one of the posters.  My Grandmother's name was Agnes McINTOSH GRAY and was born in Dundee.  Thank you for your time.   

[sarah]

I have just updated your email Jay

Regards

Sarah

[paula m]

Hi, Alexander and Sarah were my gg grandparents, having contacted Lloyds Captains register in London with Alexanders registration they confirmed Alexander McIntosh was lost at sea in 1871...a ship he was on named the TASSO listed as a foreign ship (travelling to Mauritaus possibly)  was the last entry on his seamans record, it reads Jan 25th 1870 he joined the ship, foundered 6th Feb -feb12/24?? not sure what that means  .. Date may be wrong ( The Alexander Mcintosh`s you have as died elsewhere are the wrong men...the one from Sky pops up in searches all the time....no relation).his possessions and pay were collected  by my grandmother Sarah who was back home in Scotland with the children Charles...my g grandfather, agnes and James...no other surviving children, Alexander stayed in Australia....His mariners records show all his travels around the world and positions he held aboard these vessels...which vary greatly from captain to second mate....this is possibly why his age varies so much, I think it was to appear younger for work purposes, he was registered as a Master Seaman by the age of 20  and his registration states he was born In Dundee 1814?? I have no parents names for Alexander or record of birth.
Alexander married Sarah Haddow Nicholson on 26th March 1852 at Dundee....they travelled aboard The Mermaid of London (a clipper) Alexander was listed as a passenger and not crew they arrived I think June or July 1852....All the children were born in Australia,,,Sarah travelled back and forth regularly as records show.
Lots of records of Sarah very little of Alexander...no birth record, parents names,his mother possibly Elizabeth.?

Sarah died 12th January 1903  a stones throw from Dundee

Any further help would be greatly appreciated guys, thankyou

[cando]

Paul M you may like to read this link...scroll down to the Very important bit
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368728.0

Have you read all the posts on the thread?

Have your seen the parish record?  My ancestors who married in Scotland pre civil registration had the names of both the grooms' and brides' fathers on their marriage records.

McINTOSH Andrew
NICHOLSON Sarah Haddow
26 Mar 1852
Dundee Angus Scotland[/size]

Cando

You are incorrect with the name of the ship they travelled to Victoria.  It was the barque MERMAID not the MERMAID OF LONDON
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4786740
The Argus  16 Aug 1852
Vessels in Hobson's Bay
BARQUES....Mermaid

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=23
MACINTOSH Alexander 25 years Jul 1852 MERMAID Port B 004/001
MACINTOSH Sarah 22 years Jul 1852 MERMAID Port B 004/001

The image of the ship's manifest shows they embarked from London Apr 1852 and were contracted to land at Port Phillip. Their nationality Scotch and his occupation, sailor. Their nationality has been mistranscribed to the online index on a subscription only website, as Irish.

Have you purchased any of the children's Victorian birth certificates?  It would show his age at that time and his place of birth.


You wrote that Alexander died in 1871 in Australia so that is why we searched here.

The TASSO in Australian waters in Oct 1871
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article103920251

It now appears that Alexander joined the ship's crew at Sunderland, England on 25 Jan 1870.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/bmdatseaorabroad.htm

foundered...  drowned?

McINTOSH A    52 years
Birth year    1818
Death date    8 Feb 1870
Reported date    1870
Vessel name    TASSO
Departure port    Sunderland
County At Sea
Series BT 153 Box 0010 Pge#34

Cando

[paula m]

Firstly I would like to thank everyone for the time and effort and taking the time to post replies ...as I said in my last post greatly appreciated
I have read all the posts but its a lot of information to take in in one go
Cando  I have seen the parish records for the marriage but was too faint to read parents names
I hope some of the information I have posted also helps someone else

Paula

[cando]

Any further help would be greatly appreciated guys, thankyou

Paula

Paula your request was in Aug 2012 and in 2013 it was picked up with lots of information posted again in 2014 and that is why I asked had you read all the information on the thread.  Some of your information doesn't appear to be accurate eg the name of the ship on which Alexander and Sarah arrived in Victoria.

We always appreciate a response to any questions put to you.

Forum members always appreciate some feedback to the research that has been posted.

How do you know Alexander stayed in Australia after Sarah returned to Scotland?  He was in England when he signed on as crew on the TASSO in 1870.

Cheers
Cando

[paula m]

My original post in 2012 received little response and I had given up to be truthful, it was only the other day I returned to the web site having taken up the search again to find over 20 posts, that is why I had never answered questions
I knew Alexander remained in Australia because of letters he had written to Sarah when she returned to Scotland...he continued to work at sea coming back home from time to time as far as I can tell but i could be wrong
Its likely Alexander was home in Scotland before embarking on TASSO in England
Paula

[bitzar]

Hi Paula.  Getting back to the start, have you worked out the Daisy Hill Cemetery?!  It's basically the 'old' Amherst Cemetery, the one with only one remaining headstone.