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Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« on: Saturday 14 September 13 05:51 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if someone can help me I am looking for a Mary Ann Dowdy Born around 1841 not sure where.

The problem i have is that Mary went by a couple of different names and i was wondering if anyone knows what is her real name.

Mary Ann Dowdy Married John Dowdy 1864 Victoria
on the marrage certificate Mary has her parents as Charles Dowdy and Mary McCartney.

Mary and John Dowdy then have their first child in 1865 Mary Ann Dowdy in Beechworth Victoria
second child is born in 1867 John Dowdy in Beechworth Victoria but on both birth certificates Mary Ann Dowdy has used the name Mary Ann McCartney/Maccartney her mothers name?

John and Mary then go to Kingston SE South Australia there they had a couple more kids but John died and Mary gets married again to a William Brown in 1876 Wellington South Australia and on that marrage certificate Mary is now Mary Thurston not sure where Mary got this one from but i hope someone can help.

Mary Ann Dowdy
Mary Ann McCartney / Maccartney
Mary Ann Thurston

which one is right?

thanks 
 

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 September 13 07:57 BST (UK) »
Hi,
MARRIAGE
William Brown age 43 (w)to Mary Ann Dowdy age 38 (w) on 2nd March 1876 at residence of John Sinclair, Kingston.  The bride's father was James Thurston. Dist Wel 106/653 Symbol A.

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 September 13 08:00 BST (UK) »
This is a very long shot but I'm wondering if this could be her death, with a very strange transcription of "THURSTON" and with the wrong forename for the father? (this transcription is from Ancestry so could well have mistakes.)  I'm looking at this one as the index entry for the marriage of Mary Ann to William BROWN gives her father's name as William THURSTON.

Victoria, 1895, #9627
Mary Ann BROWN, 61
Death Place: Horsham, Victoria
Father's Name:   Thorston Chris
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1834

My thoughts as to the name changes - but only guesses - are that her mother had at least two partners and thus changed her name a couple of times, so that Mary Ann also used a couple of different surnames.

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 September 13 08:03 BST (UK) »
On the births of the three children in the Kingston area, the parents are John Dowdy and Mary Ann Thurston.
Chris.


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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 September 13 08:08 BST (UK) »
Are these her children being neglected and sent to the Industrial School? Probably not - see below

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/73202968
Mary Ann DOWDY and Eliza Ann DOWDY

Edit to add -
can't be the Mary Ann born in 1865 in Beechworth as she would be too old in 1889

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 September 13 08:16 BST (UK) »
Just in case you don't already have this:
From Trove

FATAL OCCURRENCE. Kingston. June 28. 1873
Yesterday at Coolatoo John Dowdy was terribly crushed between a dray and the side of a house, and died three quarters of an hour after the occurrence.

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 September 13 08:21 BST (UK) »
TROVE has a couple of other mentions:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/92247203
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/77485481
Re an alleged assault on her in 1876 - some interesting comments re her 11 year-old daughter

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 September 13 09:00 BST (UK) »
A Mary Ann THURSTON had a number of children in the Sale and Cowarr area of Victoria.

Some seem to be registered in the surname of a male  person, (or two), others are in the name THURSTON and father UK.

Is it of interest to pursue this line?

Sue
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 September 13 10:23 BST (UK) »


"...Mary Ann Dowdy Married John Dowdy 1864 Victoria "

Are they possibly cousins.......in which case John's origins might lead to information about Mary Ann.

What do you have on the MC for John......age, occupation, parents names etc?

And who are the witnesses please.