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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 13:17 BST (UK) »
Judith this may save you searching at NLA.

Mary Ann is listed as a passenger aboard the THERESA, arrived Victoria, October 1863 from London via Southampton.She is described as passenger number 270, from London, aged 24 years single, Church of England, housemaid, reads and writes, and was engaged to work at the Parsonage in Richmond for 3 years.

She was 1 year in 1841 census when she was with her grandparents, Daniel and Leah KNIGHTS and family at Barham Broom, Norfolk.

If this is her birth then would only be one year of age in Jun 1841.

Births Dec 1839   
THURSTON    Mary Ann     Bethnal Green    2/4

I think Mary Ann's mother died in Jun qtr 1867 and her father married another Mary Ann [possibly CASEY] the same year.   

The 1871 census lists Charles wife, Mary Ann as 42 years born Middlesex, City ie born c1829.  Mary Ann KNIGHTS was born c1819 Barham Brook, Norfolk.

I'll type it all up tomorrow as bit late for me.  If you don't want the info or you can access it yourself just say so.

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 23:03 BST (UK) »
Judith this may save you searching at NLA.

Mary Ann is listed as a passenger aboard the THERESA, arrived Victoria, October 1863 from London via Southampton.She is described as passenger number 270, from London, aged 24 years single, Church of England, housemaid, reads and writes, and was engaged to work at the Parsonage in Richmond for 3 years.

She was 1 year in 1841 census when she was with her grandparents, Daniel and Leah KNIGHTS and family at Barham Broom, Norfolk.

If this is her birth then would only be one year of age in Jun 1841.

Births Dec 1839   
THURSTON    Mary Ann     Bethnal Green    2/4

I think Mary Ann's mother died in Jun qtr 1867 and her father married another Mary Ann [possibly CASEY] the same year.   

The 1871 census lists Charles wife, Mary Ann as 42 years born Middlesex, City ie born c1829.  Mary Ann KNIGHTS was born c1819 Barham Brook, Norfolk.

I'll type it all up tomorrow as bit late for me.  If you don't want the info or you can access it yourself just say so.

Cando

Yes, I agree with the second marriage for Charles THURSTON.
He continued having children with the second Mary-Ann and on the 1881 census there is a 6 year old Jessie as well as some older.  She is most unlikely to be the child of Mary-Ann KNIGHTS.

Charles is still a carpenter in 1881

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 23:40 BST (UK) »
And he died in 1884. Will post the research if needed

Cheers
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 18 September 13 23:58 BST (UK) »
Hi cando,

I was just wondering where you got that information from?

I have looked on Victorian archives and I have found two Mary's is the same person?

Family Name    G/Name      Age    Month   Year         Ship          Book      Page
THURSTON      MARY A        24     OCT      1863      THERESA      14          265
THURSTON      MARY ANN    22     OCT      1863      THERESA      13A        252


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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 19 September 13 00:25 BST (UK) »
Hi there I just found another Mary ann Thurston

Family Name    Given Name        Age        Month        Year        Ship           Port     Fiche     Page
THURSTON       MARY A              18          MAR          1857   JAMES FERNIE  B        121       008

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 19 September 13 00:40 BST (UK) »
Hi there I just found another Mary ann Thurston

Family Name    Given Name        Age        Month        Year        Ship           Port     Fiche     Page
THURSTON       MARY A              18          MAR          1857   JAMES FERNIE  B        121       008

This finding has been noted previously in the thread.
I think it was seen as not relevant. Perhaps if you browse back through your thread ........

The Parsonage Richmond may have been at 97 Bridge Road Richmond.  Further research would be needed to be certain.

Epworth Hospital is in that spot now. I think.

By way of interest, Hester Barbara M.CARTNEY spent some years in her later life living in Richmond, according to the Electoral Rolls..
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 19 September 13 01:17 BST (UK) »
Yes you are right I am sorry

but when Judith posted it she had this persons age as 28

on the Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923 it has her age as 18.

Judith could this be a typo or did you find this information elsewhere?

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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 19 September 13 01:30 BST (UK) »
This woman appears on both Assisted and Unassisted listings.
They are the same person both times.
I have seen this double listing frequently and perhaps someone else can explain it ::)

The Assisted list gives her age as 28

Unassisted as 18

You can peruse this for yourself.

 Curious  :P
Would love to know where Hester was assigned upon arrival.

Sue
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Re: Dowdy / Mcartney / Thurston in Victoria / South Australia
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 19 September 13 01:41 BST (UK) »
The Mary Ann THURSTON on the James Fernie  is also on PROV's Assisted Passenger index with age of 28. 
Mary Ann THURSTON, 28, arr MAR 1857, per JAMES FERNIE Book 11 p 338

As I had found her on that list I didn't even think to look on the Unassisted index  :-[
Mary A THURSTON, 18 arr MAR 1857 per  JAMES FERNIE, from a  British port. Fiche 121, p008

Off to the NLA on Saturday to have a look at the records for these three girls.  ;D

Snap, Sue but as I've put in the refs I'll leave this up coz it saves me finding them again  ::)

Judith
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