Following from Essie's post and adding other items too
Some possible NSW events of interest
Christ Church St Laurence, is C of E and is located near to Central Railway Staton, SYDNEY
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCR-N2Q Hannah Elizabeth CLAPHAM born 6 Jul 1844 to George CLAPHAM and Hannah
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCR-N29 Thomas George CLAPHAM born 30 Jul 1841 to George CLAPHAM and Hannah
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTCR-NF5 Mary Ann Amelia CLAPHAM, born 22 Sept 1838 to George CLAPHAM and Hannah
1853 (ie BEFORE civil registrations for marriages)
William JONES married Mary A CLAPHAM (Volume 81, line 599) Scots Church, Pitt St, SYDNEY
1860 (ie after civil registrations, but BEFORE divorces)
Mary Ann HANSON married Philip John ROELS (#257) Registered Sydney (twice indexed, so some kind of issue with her surname when that index was prepared in the 1930s by volunteers)
I do NOT think the following marriage is part of Hannah Sophia’s family tree….
1879 John Philip ROLES married Annie JONES, Launceston Tasmania 12 July 1879 (#546)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTZG-Y2T
His likely birth in Tasmania
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTXM-X7J (9 Nov 1849, William Ambrose Roles and Emma WeymouthCannot find anyother with that ROELS surname on the austcemindex at present
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=7805853 23 August 1891, aged 80, Leonard Joseph ROELS
Some bits and piecesP JHG Roels =
Phillip John Henry Geering ROELS …. As per NSW Police Gazette 18 March 1891
Philip HG Roels married in 1924 to Alice C A Collins (#4979) registered Sydney. (did he die same year, and did Alice die 1945, as Alice Christina ROELS (#5323 dau of Frederick, at Redfern)
BEFORE you order any further NSW BDM marriage certs for any marriage 1856-1895 era… I strongly suggest that if you need marriage cert in that era, you order the Official transcription (a full one, not a partial) See:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546609.0.html Some info re “colonial Divorces” …. This is full of important information … particularly where you can be looking for a burial for a spouse, to explain a second/third marriage, and suspect there was simply an informal ending of the first marriage…
http://www.aifs.gov.au/institute/seminars/finlay.htmlhttp://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh/bdm_rec.html Important …. If the NSW BDM reference starts with “V” it is NOT a civil registration, so it is NOT a birth/death/marriage. So order the Official Transcript (because you do NOT get the real deal cert for "V" records from NSW BDM anyways...
The “V” stands for VOLUME, and it is therefore an Early Church Record. So it is either a Baptism, Burial or Wedding recorded in a parish or local church register. The event may have been celebrated in one church (of any denomination) and the information then TRANSMITTED to that denomination’s Head Church, or even transmitted to the NSW Chaplains and thus transmitted to the Church of England’s registers.
NOT ALL the records from that pre civil registration era were kept in safe places and so many were lost BEFORE civil registration commenced. Once civil registration commenced, then the local district registrars were expected to foreward returns on a regular basis to Sydney via ORDINARY mail.
Sometimes that did not happen, sometimes the returns were lost in the mail, and sometimes the records may well have been lost in the Sydney Registrar Generals Office.
Of course, todays registrations are handled electronically, so it is hoped that future family history buffs will find things a tad easier.
Cheers, JM
