Joseph William MASON b.1834 Nth Shields. Northumb..

[ThommoS]

Hi,

Could sks please help me identify the family for:

Joseph William MASON, born 1834 North Shields
Parents: William MASON, ships captain and Mary KING.
Parents are also believed to have resided in Northumberland but not certain

Those above details on the parents have come from Josephs' marriage certificate and death records (both in Vic Australia)...but these may not be accurate.

He married Elizabeth WATTS in Melbourne on 24/7/1867 (second marriages for both) but stated on that Certificate he was a widower and that his first wife (no details known) had died in Dec 1854 (not stated where) - they had one child from that marriage (sex and name not stated) but the declaration stated the child was deceased prior to 1867. Have no information other than that.

I could find no record of the first marriage in Victoria, nor his first wife's death so assumed they occurred in Northumberland prior him migrating...am yet to obtain migration records but it's believed he migrated about 1855 (also unconfirmed).
 
Quite possible the first marriage occurred in Northumberland but I'm having difficulty finding that along with Joseph's birth and also his parents details  so any help in tracking down this family in North Shields would be greatly appreciated along with any suggestions as to where I can look next..... .....Thanks.........Tom

[Kay99]

I wonder if this could be his first marriage in 1854 to Sarah Jane Blakey

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N6PF-D86

Kay

[sillgen]

The only William and Mary with a Joseph of the right age that I can see in 1841 in that area the father is a coal miner.   Not impossible to change or may the ship's captain was a bit of exaggeration?   
HO107 313 15.171 9  in Wingate.   May be a complete red herring though.  North Shields is on the Tyne and a stone's throw away from Durham.  People regularly crossed the river.

Edit - that family are all still together in 1851 by which time Joseph is also a miner so probably not yours.
Have you looked for a William Mason on Lloyd's Captains' list?
That marriage looks very good and he is still north of the river then.    www.freebmd.org.uk will give the reference if you want to get the certificate.

[Kay99]

Was Joseph William also a sailor and therefore may have been at sea in 1851? Sarah Jane Blakey born 1838 North Shields appears still to be living there in 1851 with her mother and step father John Lough who was also a mariner   Class: HO107 Piece 2409 Folio 442 Page 11

Edit - there is a tree on Anc. that lists her marriage to Joseph in 1854, her working in North Shields as a servant in 1861 - listed as married - and her marriage to George Scrimshaw in 1865 in the name of Blakey.  There is one child listed to the first marriage Mary Ann Kell Mason born 1858 dies 1867 - who is living as grandaughter Mary A Kell in 1861 with Sarah Jane's mother Mary Ann Lough

[ThommoS]

Sillgen...

Yes I saw that reference also but the Joseph was still there after my Joseph was in Australia so I don't think that's them.... tks all the same

Kay,

...I am not familiar with the area and proximity to North Shields and that makes it difficult to identify each listing in the census...regarding the occupation of the father as Sea Captain, have looked at some military sources but not found anything - not looked at Maritime records nor the Captains register yet so thanks for that advice....the sons marriage reference states quite clearly his mother was Mary King and I had been trying to reconcile the parents with Joseph in the census to track them down

Thank you both, appreciate your help and suggestions....Tom

[ThommoS]

Kay,

That marriage you found on IGI seems to be quite close....I'll try and get copy of the film next week to see but it does seem to fit with the mothers maiden name KING in Joseph's name....my information did not have his name including King as it wasn't mentioned in any material so now I'll look for the death for confirmation as well........thankyou

[Radcliff]

I will take another look later as I am at work,and cant access a few sites,,and see who this is,

William and Mary Mason down at Willington,he is a keelman,they have a son Cuthbert Cook Mason,

[Radcliff]

William Mason
death registered Tynemouth March 1850,

Durham (INHERITANCE PROJECT)

William Mason,mariner of North Shields,in the county of Northumberland,
date of death 10th Feb 1850
date of probate,2nd March 1850,

registered copy of will,24th December 1849,  DPRI/2/57 page 860 - 861,
I wonder if it would be worth purchasing a copy,

[Radcliff]

I wouldn't think this would be the same as  the one who has a  will in 1850,unless they renewed them  automatically


Master and mates certificates

William Mason,
birth,North Shields,
11Th April 1803
issued Newcastle Upon Tyne,22ND July 1851
Certificate,44.339
apprentice mate and master 36 years

record quite extensive and living Manor Chare Newcastle 1851,