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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #144 on: Thursday 03 October 13 14:31 BST (UK) »
You can search http://www.cwgc.org/ in various configurations - name not required:
For example - regiment Green Howards, additional information "Newark", this is the only hit:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2659362/MIDWORTH,%20JOHN%20ARTHUR
(but many men do not have any additional info listed).

You can also use wildcards - plenty of interesting possibilities, no obvious ones.

On the Railway employment database on Ancestry there appears to be a "Geo Markuson" who might bear investigating.

It's possible he was raised under another name and only told about his father when he was a bit older - then took on that name with the spelling as he thought it should be.
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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #145 on: Thursday 03 October 13 15:07 BST (UK) »
I spoke with Gordon's brother, Ernest Markerson and he says in addition to what we already know, that the reason Gordon and Phyllis are registered both at the same address at the time of their marriage, is due to Gordon living with (as a lodger), Phyllis' patents. He used to clean their brasses. He also states that Gordon got Phyllis pregnant hence why the first Gordon/Phyllis offspring was so close to the marriage date.

Ernest has also said he had quite an extensive record of the MARKERSON family tree of his cousins, dating back as far as 1854. He is going to let me have this information which may open some clues and hopefully missing links to Gordon's father George.

Ernest is known as 'John' by his family.

Ernest also said he had reservations about his 2 deceased siblings, Phyllis and Reginald as to wether they were his real siblings, so they're could well have been a marriage/family pre Phyllis OAKLEY.

Ernest wife mentioned something about Gordon's father, George, seeing somewhere his occupation being 'Horse Whisperer', and that he was probably from the USA. This may be just an assumption on her part and shouldn't be taken gospel.

I'll update more as and when.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #146 on: Thursday 03 October 13 15:54 BST (UK) »
The plot thickens  ???
When Ernest mentioned the Markerson family tree of his cousins, would they be GRMs brothers children? Would that brother be Frederick I wonder?
Staffordshire: Lawton Probyn Horrobin
Durham: Bamlett Hardman Winship Robinson
Suffolk: Leggett

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #147 on: Thursday 03 October 13 16:02 BST (UK) »
Horse brasses one assumes  :D

Just to clarify Ernest is Gordon's son isn't he not his brother?

Gordon being a lodger would seem to indicate he was a chap on his own but not necessarily. 

The other two siblings mentioned were born after Ernest so they can't have been from a previous marriage/family.

Was assuming Frederick never married or had children as he was killed in the war but that could be a wrong assumption and he was old enough when he died to have been married.

Cousins with the same name would have to come from the fathers side.  Maybe there was another brother we don't yet know about.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #148 on: Thursday 03 October 13 16:27 BST (UK) »
Cousins with the same name would have to come from the fathers side.  Maybe there was another brother we don't yet know about.

Not necessarily - could be descended from an illegitimate child of Gordon's sister.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #149 on: Thursday 03 October 13 16:46 BST (UK) »

Ernest has also said he had quite an extensive record of the MARKERSON family tree of his cousins, dating back as far as 1854. He is going to let me have this information which may open some clues and hopefully missing links to Gordon's father George.


Fascinating development - hope he comes back to you soon :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #150 on: Thursday 03 October 13 16:51 BST (UK) »
Cousins with the same name would have to come from the fathers side.  Maybe there was another brother we don't yet know about.

Not necessarily - could be descended from an illegitimate child of Gordon's sister.

Yes, but it is supposed to go back to 1854 so would still have to go through the father of Gorden's sister or it wouldn't be a MARKERSON line, but the line of the father of the illegitimate child of Gordon's sister :D
Even if he had the name of a sibling of GR that would be very helpful.
Bizzare the bit about thinking the second child was not a full sibling. I guess there could be a question mark about the fourth, but not the second born.  ???

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #151 on: Friday 04 October 13 14:47 BST (UK) »
As I understand it siblings of Gordon were Frederick and Rosemary.
Frederick who served with him and was killed in France. 
Rosemary killed with parents in the blitz.

If there is an extensive Markerson tree then it must be the right name after all so why can't we find births for these people?  I'm sure we've all tried every spelling combination known to man and then some!

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #152 on: Friday 04 October 13 14:49 BST (UK) »
I must say I am itching to see that family tree!

The hint from the living relatives about a possible US link is interesting.  Markussen/Markusson occur there a fair bit due to Scandinavian immigration, and might well be turned into Markerson. Still, I can't see any obvious candidates across the water either ???
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)