Church Records

[aghadowey]

Children of Thomas May & Jane McEwen-
John (1866 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRHT-7JQ
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e7be950120029
Mary Jane (1868 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPZS-HFD
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2436b60234535
Margaret (1870 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5QL-2PJ
Jane (1872 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP17-WS7
Helen (1874 Scotland) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ7N-4YT

Possible marriage (1865 Scotland) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYQZ-RYQ

The 1870 birth is an extracted Irish birth record and the one posted earlier is from the civil registration index (2 separate databases)

[Celticcrafter]

Children of Thomas May & Jane McEwen-
John (1866 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRHT-7JQ
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e7be950120029
Mary Jane (1868 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPZS-HFD
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2436b60234535
Margaret (1870 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5QL-2PJ
Jane (1872 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP17-WS7
Helen (1874 Scotland) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQ7N-4YT

Possible marriage (1865 Scotland) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYQZ-RYQ

The 1870 birth is an extracted Irish birth record and the one posted earlier is from the civil registration index (2 separate databases)

Aghadowey,  if this is my Margaret why would her marriage certificate say her father is Richard May.
Plus Nobody I have spoken with has ever mentioned a Scottish connection.

CC

[aghadowey]

There were LOTS of different May families in Dublin and it looks like you might be getting them a bit muddled.

Children of Richard May & Martha Griffin-
David (1867 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5J7-HLR
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e483120338210
Susan (1873 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGC9-K5V
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7247810342445
Jane (1875 Dublin)- mother Anne
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5c57eb0343767
Martha (1879 Dublin) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGVS-1H5
      baptism http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5dd84f0346422

Marriage (1866 Dublin) Richard & Martha-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/879b570096694

Also wondering about this record for Eliza May (1877)-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/58fbfb0344917

Baptism for Anne Russell (1879) sponsors Richard & Margaret May
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/228a380346400

[Celticcrafter]

I have the Eliza and Anne but they are too late Plus I know her name was Margaret.

I really do think that Richard and Martha are connected to her somehow.  I do have their other children and she would fit in with their ages.

[aghadowey]

I didn't say the Mays weren't connected- just that you are possibly getting them muddled.

The Anne in my last post was Anne Russell and the Eliza from 1877 might be another child but that has nothing to do with Margaret.

[Celticcrafter]

I didn't say the Mays weren't connected- just that you are possibly getting them muddled.

The Anne in my last post was Anne Russell and the Eliza from 1877 might be another child but that has nothing to do with Margaret.

Sorry I am just frustrated...


Eliza is also possible as Michael and Martha do not have any other children that I have found.  So Michael could just be an Error?

Believe it or not I have gone through all the church records and married up all the May and Griffin families.

Susan, Martha, & David all have  Richard and Martha as parents...
I have the Jane that you found with a Anne Griffin for a mother but Anne is probably an error.

I have two Richards one married to Martha Griffin and the other one to an Anne Griffin.  I didn't think about the name Anne being an Error. 

Thinking about it now how many Richard Mays could there be married at that time.

Not a lot I would think considering that there are non on the 1901 census for their age.  If there were two you would think one of them would have lived.   

Anne Russell I think R & M were just her godparents.

[aghadowey]

Anne Russell I think R & M were just her godparents.

Yes, that's what I said earlier-

Baptism for Anne Russell (1879) sponsors Richard & Margaret May
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/228a380346400

[Celticcrafter]

So A,  what do you really think is going on with my Margaret.  Have you ever come across this scenario before?

How long have you been at this anyway? You have an awful lot of stars after your name. 

CC

[hasta]

CC - I'm sorry to bring you back to the prison registers, but it looks like Margaret's childhood was even more chaotic than her adulthood. Martha May has pages of convictions.(I basing this on the 1880 conviction with an address of 9 Chancery Lane where we know she was in 1879)  They do reveal that she is born 1847 in Limerick. (in some her next of kin is daughter Margaret Nolan) Her daughter Martha has a few pages of her own.
Martha Jnr (says she is born 1880 Skinners Alley - not entirely correct but not far off) names her next of kin as Martha DOODY. It seems Richard May has died and Martha Snr has married Patrick Doody in 1888. Reams more prison records under that name.
She has twin boys in 1887 with Patrick Doody, Christopher and Patrick.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/81fc480289122
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/961eb50289123
Margaret May is Christopher's god mother.
Poor old Martha is still going strong in the 1911 census in Basin Street
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Usher_s_Quay/Basin_St__Lower/73847/
It's not the workhouse but seems to be an institution of some kind.
It's a pity they didn't ask the widows about their children's births. I suspect that Martha had many more children then the few (and few suspected) found so far and hasn't registered them.
There are two many possible scenarios, but the simplest one is that Martha had Margaret illegitimately - where is another question.
I think the Christina that you mention is Martha's brothers daughter, so Margaret's cousin.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/ec5f9e0340177
I also found what appears to be Martha Griffin/May/Doody's sister being re baptised by her uncle Robert Neville at age 11 - haven't completely figured out what is going on there - but here it is if you want a look
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/3e1c840337440
  Be patient on Margaret's birth - it will surface eventually (fingers crossed) I have plenty I have been looking for for years now.