Church Records

[hasta]

Yep - the prison records are brilliant. I was delighted to find quite a few for my lot !

CC - you mentioned a marriage cert for Richard May and Martha Griffin, Where and when did that happen ? I'm not seeing on on freeBMD

[myluck!]

Just a quick follow up to say didn't have time to go through detail to answer but delighted others did and you have additional info.
Happy hunting!!

[hasta]

Don't see anything in the UK but there is this marriage in St Nicholas 1866 between Richard May and Martha Griffin
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/879b570096694
I can't see it on the civil reg.
Three children
David 1867
Susan 1873
Martha 1879
but no Margaret or Christina... have you checked out the Margaret May born Dublin South 1870 ?

[Celticcrafter]

Yep - the prison records are brilliant. I was delighted to find quite a few for my lot !

CC - you mentioned a marriage cert for Richard May and Martha Griffin, Where and when did that happen ? I'm not seeing on on freeBMD

Hi Hasta, I got their certs from St Nicholas church.

Richard May & Martha Griffin
Married 19 August 1866
Witnesses: Michael Westward -10 Back Lane - Catherine Bigly - 7 Skinners Alley

This information was on the back of Richard & Martha's cert
Parents:
Henry & Susan May  7 Skinners Alley
David & Elizabeth Griffin  8 Skinners Alley


Joseph Nolan & Margaret May
Married  3 March 1889
Witnesses: Peter O Hara & Christina Griffin

Addresses for Joseph and Margaret were on the back of their cert
Joseph 32 Church St - Margaret 10 Francis St

I actually gone the witness the wrong way around.  I had said that Christina was Richard & Margarets witness when she was actually Joseph & Margarets.

That's were I was getting the griffin connection.

I am so confused right now.

CC 

[Celticcrafter]

No I will have a look

Don't see anything in the UK but there is this marriage in St Nicholas 1866 between Richard May and Martha Griffin
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/879b570096694
I can't see it on the civil reg.
Three children
David 1867
Susan 1873
Martha 1879
but no Margaret or Christina... have you checked out the Margaret May born Dublin South 1870 ?

[Celticcrafter]

Hasta,  I can't find the Dublin South one is she on Ancestry?.....

I also found a Margaret May born in Manchester in 1871 she is not on the 1881 census.  I have sent for her birth certificate to see if the parents are Irish.  Of course she could have died and that's why she's not on the 1881 census....Maybe the mothers name might be griffin...we will see....It takes forever for certs to come from England the GRO in Ireland is much faster......CC


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No I will have a look

Don't see anything in the UK but there is this marriage in St Nicholas 1866 between Richard May and Martha Griffin
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/879b570096694
I can't see it on the civil reg.
Three children
David 1867
Susan 1873
Martha 1879
but no Margaret or Christina... have you checked out the Margaret May born Dublin South 1870 ?

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[hasta]

Hi
No, Ancestry doesn't seem to produce it, here it is on Familysearch (FindMyPast also have it)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYYN-D3R

[aghadowey]

Hi
No, Ancestry doesn't seem to produce it, here it is on Familysearch (FindMyPast also have it)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYYN-D3R

Is that the same as this extracted record?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5QL-2PJ

[Celticcrafter]

Very interesting two different records..

The second one with mother & fathers name.  Thomas and Jane 

Just checked there is one on ancestry with the father Thomas and mother Jane.

So I wonder who the other record is.  It's hard to say with familysearch because they duplicate a lot
however when they do that it is usually the same information.

I just had a look at my GRO papers they did do a search for Margaret May with Parents Richard & Martha between the dates 1866-1870.  I thought they had only done 1868.  So would that mean that the Margaret 1870 Dublin South on familysearch would not have the parents Richard & Martha.
Are there ever records missing from the GRO? 

I that is the case then the familysearch records are probably dup's.

The Manchester birth place is very interesting as it's the one thing that seems to be consistent among my mam's family members although the names May and Griffin aren't.  Plus the prison records all state her birth place as Manchester and maiden name May.  The only records in England other then Ancestry are on thegenealogist.uk which I have access to but I have not found her.  I have tried both names.
I am just lost.  She had to come from somewhere.